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    DJ Reid
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    @keith-anderson said in The BTC Football Trading Thread:

    @keith-anderson said in The BTC Football Trading Thread:

    My picks for tonight:

    Lay Under 1.5 Goals: (Also expecting a SHG)

    19:30 - Lecce v Ternana
    19:45 - Cagliari v Salernitana
    20:00 - Lens v Angers

    3/3 from the under 1.5 goals lay and 3/3 in the SHG.

    Layla tov

    Cheers for these 💪

    Are the SHG any scoreline and any HT odds or do you set them?

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    Martin btc team
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    @keith-anderson full house!

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    Akiva Anderson
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    @keith-anderson said in The BTC Football Trading Thread:

    My picks for tonight:

    Lay Under 1.5 Goals: (Also expecting a SHG)

    19:30 - Lecce v Ternana
    19:45 - Cagliari v Salernitana
    20:00 - Lens v Angers

    3/3 from the under 1.5 goals lay and 3/3 in the SHG.

    Layla tov

    le jeu avant tout

    Am Yisrael Chai

    When you got skin in the game, you stay in the game
    But you don’t get a win unless you play in the game...

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    A Former User
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    #10704

    @matt-ayles think about what you said in this post. You found a game with great pre match stats. The market is saying that the probability of a 0-0 is higher than you think it is so the price in this case is value to your system. You dont just follow the market, you try to pick holes at it when you feel its wrong, dont ever be led by the market, its how we all build our edges. You talked yourself out of that trade and im guessing this is more to do with the underlying criteria you are after for a perfect trade, rather than a game by game basis. Maybe your looking for too much? Have you setup a part of your results sheets to show if inplay stats are helping or hindering? In my book what you said sounds like you spotted a good pre match game, the market didnt agree and therefore you had a great value trade on your hands. Trading is all about mindset, but you build mindset by having a good proven strat. 3 months of bad strike rate is underlying criteria/match selection. If you want i can take a look at your data see whats happening.

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    A Former User
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    @matt-ayles said in The BTC Football Trading Thread:

    Thinking out loud:

    Everyone (myself included) has Cagliari on their LTD/SHG filters.
    It's 0-0 HT...
    Stats aren't great. Total shots and corners are good, but shots on target and dangerous attack percentages are poor.
    Research shows neither team has had a 0-0 FT, they both score more goals in the second half than first, the away team concede lots of goals away from home in second half. Cagliari score more goals early in the second half than late (which suits me as I get out at 80 mins).

    The odds are 2.58 as I type this (to LTD).

    Recently I have been following the criteria to the letter, so I would not enter this trade due to lack of shots on target, lack of dangerous attacks, and the draw odds being that low (suggests the market expect a draw). However my strike rate the last 3 months is woeful...

    And thus I pass the mic to the crowd for feedback please!

    You're right Matt lots of SOFT and not many SONT and from the off I felt it was going to be one of those games with 50% chance of a goal.

    Yes the goal came, thankfully as I was in a Split Stake but I was only trading half stakes due to a poor win rate of both teams... That was the red flag to me.

    You can see from the uploaded screenshot regarding the amount of games lost by both teams in their previous 5 home & away games.

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    These are games to trade with caution so we'll done you 👍

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    A Former User
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    @darri said in The BTC Football Trading Thread:

    SHG cagliari vs salernitana 0-0 HT

    Goal! 1-0 👍 🤑

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    A Former User
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    SHG cagliari vs salernitana 0-0 HT

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    A Former User
    wrote on last edited by
    #10708

    Thinking out loud:

    Everyone (myself included) has Cagliari on their LTD/SHG filters.
    It's 0-0 HT...
    Stats aren't great. Total shots and corners are good, but shots on target and dangerous attack percentages are poor.
    Research shows neither team has had a 0-0 FT, they both score more goals in the second half than first, the away team concede lots of goals away from home in second half. Cagliari score more goals early in the second half than late (which suits me as I get out at 80 mins).

    The odds are 2.58 as I type this (to LTD).

    Recently I have been following the criteria to the letter, so I would not enter this trade due to lack of shots on target, lack of dangerous attacks, and the draw odds being that low (suggests the market expect a draw). However my strike rate the last 3 months is woeful...

    And thus I pass the mic to the crowd for feedback please!

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    Tomasz Lunarzewski Banned
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    @ryan said in The BTC Football Trading Thread:

    My HT LTD/HT LCS for today

    0_1637926942317_Screenshot 2021-11-26 at 11.41.43.png

    Can you tell me please what filters do you use for them selections mate?

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    Akiva Anderson
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    #10710

    My picks for tonight:

    Lay Under 1.5 Goals: (Also expecting a SHG)

    19:30 - Lecce v Ternana
    19:45 - Cagliari v Salernitana
    20:00 - Lens v Angers

    le jeu avant tout

    Am Yisrael Chai

    When you got skin in the game, you stay in the game
    But you don’t get a win unless you play in the game...

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    Ryan
    replied to Andy Donnelly on last edited by
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    @andy-donnelly Sounds good, keep me updated on the progress of it.

    Founder of BTC - Pro Trader - Main Sports Tennis and Football

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    Andy Donnelly
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    #10712

    Ok thanks Ryan, I may start small stakes soon then and continually monitor both the wider data and the performance of the narrowed filter for a while yet

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    Ryan
    wrote on last edited by
    #10713

    If I had that amount of data I wouldn't be too worried about waiting till another 250 I would be happy to move with it and check it all the time.

    Founder of BTC - Pro Trader - Main Sports Tennis and Football

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    Andy Donnelly
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    Quick one from me re testing. Think this has been discussed a few times but just wanted to gauge peoples thoughts, how many games minimum on average would you test before being comfortable enough to invest in a strategy?

    And if you have say tested something for 500 games then realised that narrowing a filter would increase the SR but would reduce number of tested games with the new criteria to say 250, would you want another 250 games tested with that before being comfortable?

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    Ryan
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    #10715

    My HT LTD/HT LCS for today

    0_1637926942317_Screenshot 2021-11-26 at 11.41.43.png

    Founder of BTC - Pro Trader - Main Sports Tennis and Football

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    Ryan
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    #10716

    @keith-anderson Nope never!

    That ship has burned, the reality is he would have been truly unstoppable if had stayed and Klopp came etc lol

    Founder of BTC - Pro Trader - Main Sports Tennis and Football

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    A Former User
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    @thomas-larsen said in The BTC Football Trading Thread:

    Watching my team (Brøndby) play against Lyon. Cant see this one end 0-0 but cant back o0.5 at 1.22
    Will wait and see how 2nd half start

    Goal 1-0 51 min

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    Watching my team (Brøndby) play against Lyon. Cant see this one end 0-0 but cant back o0.5 at 1.22
    Will wait and see how 2nd half start

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    Nick Allan
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    @alan-steward thanks alan that does help 🙂

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    A Former User
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    @thomas-larsen said in The BTC Football Trading Thread:

    Late goal Braga 1.90

    Goal 2-2

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