The BTC Horse Racing Thread

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@John-Folan
I thought that too.
This actually makes me feel a bit more confident about using it. It feels more 'analytical' and stable than some pundits (who may change) coming up with an interpretation (which is even more black box and maybe wouldnt be based on anything solid at all). Plus the fact it doesnt change means i can open my filters (so it just lists all the horsesa and their current rank) then re-order it before the race based on non-runners. I have a roadmap now for 100%, total hands off automation. Just one thing i need to experiment with.

Greg Mitchell

@Adam If you do, make sure you are a gelding (ouch!) aged 3 running in a handicap with a Pace Rating of 8 and drawn 7

Adam

@Greg-Mitchell said in The BTC Horse Racing Thread:

@Adam Bit like the roadworks on the M6! Will there ever be a day when you can go "Right, all finished"

Probably when they put the last nail in my coffin!

Although I might become a Buddhist just before that happens and come back as a horse...

John Folan

@Adam said in The BTC Horse Racing Thread:

@Jonathan-Jones said in The BTC Horse Racing Thread:

@Adam
So the forecast price is something specific to this software. From what you say that would be static for the race and shouldnt change through the day. So i could download the qualifiers at 9am on the day of the race and it would be those values used for the backtest the next day, its not something like favourite or volume?

This is correct.

Must be angles with these. I thought it was the price from racing times or something. Not a BTC price. That’s my weekend gone

Greg Mitchell

@Adam Bit like the roadworks on the M6! Will there ever be a day when you can go "Right, all finished"

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@Adam

Perfect. Thanks, i can work with that

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@Andy-Lucy
So, a way of using the conditions is to use the relative odds condition. You can do similar to the previous with that. You will need 2 of these. One for your runtime selection greater than the other selection sorted by back odds in position 2 and the other for your runtime selection less than selection sorted by back odds in position 4 (so, its got to be position 3 - 3rd fav).

Adam

@kevin-curry said in The BTC Horse Racing Thread:

that be great if you could i feel draw bias is very important i realize it will be a lot of data needed different tracks with different distances it will be a good extra filter to have in the armory

I've added it to the development plan. We already have the data so it will just be a case of creating some rules around it.

Adam

@Jonathan-Jones said in The BTC Horse Racing Thread:

@Adam
So the forecast price is something specific to this software. From what you say that would be static for the race and shouldnt change through the day. So i could download the qualifiers at 9am on the day of the race and it would be those values used for the backtest the next day, its not something like favourite or volume?

This is correct.

kevin curry

@Andy-Lucy thanks i do that i keep you posted how i get on

Andy Lucy

@Jonathan-Jones i have currently set it up as the action still set too at runtime so i can pick selection in the automation tab and then have set the 2 conditions with the odds range to 3rd fav. i am thinking this will fire on selection if the 3rd fav is within the odds range set, however my selection might not be that 3rd fav at the time. im not very confident with the other conditions etc and assume thats where the option will be if possible.

Andy Lucy

@Jonathan-Jones, thanks for the reply. yeah thats the angle i was looking at, and there is same options in conditions tab. i just need it to fire if a specific selection(horse) that i load into it is the actual 3rd fav 10mins before the off with correct odds range between 2 and 7.
i have the time part and odds range part sorted its just the other bit was bit unsure off. it does look possible like you say just about knowing exactly how it works hey.

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@Andy-Lucy

You can do this with fairbot.

I dontknow the exact requirments of that strategy but to bet on the 3rd fav is simple. You sort by back odds then pick position 3. The same format is used in the filter expressions too.

Andy Lucy

@kevin-curry
https://forum.betfairtradingcommunity.com/topic/4020/bet-angel-automation-thread/175
post on here mate the guys will most likely have a bot or will help you out with it.

Andy Lucy

@kevin-curry hi i dont blame ya so much easier with the bots hey. i am currently with fairbot and have bots for my other strategys that seem to work fine and i understand them enough to play about but just the part where the selection has to be 3rd fav i am not so sure on. i will have a play with it this afternoon. if fairbots too basic i may have to move over and learn bet angel too.

kevin curry

@Andy-Lucy
hi thinking of
having an automation made up on bet angel which will do this

Andy Lucy

hi guys has anyone managed to create a bot for the lay 3rd fav strategy on fairbot? is it possible to do on there. thanks

kevin curry

Adam
"Good draw" will vary from course to course. I could look at adding some "draw value/bias" filters to help with this

that be great if you could i feel draw bias is very important i realize it will be a lot of data needed different tracks with different distances it will be a good extra filter to have in the armory
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@Adam
So the forecast price is something specific to this software. From what you say that would be static for the race and shouldnt change through the day. So i could download the qualifiers at 9am on the day of the race and it would be those values used for the backtest the next day, its not something like favourite or volume?

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@kevin-curry is that something to do with Pineapples?