The BTC Horse Racing Thread
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@charles-cartwright Cheers Charles learning lots from you guys really appreciate. I was looking earlier on and made notes of some of the courses not to touch. Don't want to touch harness racing !. So if i see a race card and the race type says either pacers or trotters won't touch with a barge pole. Cheers for the explanation
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@james-everard said in The BTC Horse Racing Thread:
@charles-cartwright Thanks Charles , will gradually get used to which courses will have the most liquidity etc. Just looking at some of the races this morning do you know what type of race is pace M. Obviously know handicaps, maidens etc but not heard of that type of race and can't seem to find any info on the internet
Pacers and trotters are the two types of harness racing. They are required to run with different gaits. It's all a bit complicated.
This is where the use of a filter like BFBM comes in. You can simply filter those races out and never have to be concerned with them if you don't want to trade them.
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@richard-latimer Yes in the red no change there lol. Luckily i am doing very small stakes so hopefully can turn it around . Nothing under 3.5 i go for preferably 3.8 or above and 5 runners under 10.0
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@james-everard said in The BTC Horse Racing Thread:
@richard-latimer I only started doing this strategy yesterday so have very little results . I have traded 10 races , 4 lost ( only 1 horse went under 1.82) , and 5 had two horses get below 1.82 and one of the races have had 3 . Just a case of recording details of which courses , type of race( maiden, handicap etc) number of runners and length race has the best strike rate, will take time to determine this but i think we have plenty on our hands lol
So you're in the red so far? I've tried a few times myself but once I didn't notice the face was short, another time the fave under 4.0, last time was almost. Not had a winner yet.
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@richard-latimer I only started doing this strategy yesterday so have very little results . I have traded 10 races , 4 lost ( only 1 horse went under 1.82) , and 5 had two horses get below 1.82 and one of the races have had 3 . Just a case of recording details of which courses , type of race( maiden, handicap etc) number of runners and length race has the best strike rate, will take time to determine this but i think we have plenty on our hands lol
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@james-everard said in The BTC Horse Racing Thread:
@richard-latimer Hi Richard all very much learning for me with horses but a good time to learn i think. The strategy of laying the field i believe can be successful, just learning to not trade on certain courses etc. For instance looking at the Australian racing on Betfair it doesn't explain if it is a standard horse race or a harness race. I only want to be trading standard horse racing for this strategy but Betfair doesn't give these details. Looking on the bet365 site the following courses appear to be harness racing and greyhounds only-
Menangle
Albion park
Globe Derby
BunburyThen of course Sweden has races but they never go inplay so they will never be part of this strategy.
Looking at the rules for this trade the first race that meets this criteria is the Tampa Bay Downs at 19.30pm 14 runners , 1 mile maiden and 5 horses are under 10.0 oddsDidn't realise that about Sweden so good to know. What percentage of races you have done so far came back in the positive and what percentage of races matched 3 rather than just 2?
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@richard-latimer Hi Richard all very much learning for me with horses but a good time to learn i think. The strategy of laying the field i believe can be successful, just learning to not trade on certain courses etc. For instance looking at the Australian racing on Betfair it doesn't explain if it is a standard horse race or a harness race. I only want to be trading standard horse racing for this strategy but Betfair doesn't give these details. Looking on the bet365 site the following courses appear to be harness racing and greyhounds only-
Menangle
Albion park
Globe Derby
BunburyThen of course Sweden has races but they never go inplay so they will never be part of this strategy.
Looking at the rules for this trade the first race that meets this criteria is the Tampa Bay Downs at 19.30pm 14 runners , 1 mile maiden and 5 horses are under 10.0 odds -
Am I right in thinking nothing fits until at least 17:30 when Tampa starts? The 17:30 doesn't look any good either but just so I can rule out all the afternoon's dross haha!
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@james-everard said in The BTC Horse Racing Thread:
@james-everard said in The BTC Horse Racing Thread:
@charles-cartwright Thanks Charles , will gradually get used to which courses will have the most liquidity etc. Just looking at some of the races this morning do you know what type of race is pace M. Obviously know handicaps, maidens etc but not heard of that type of race and can't seem to find any info on the internet
Think I may have found out that the Pace M description means, think it is for harness racing so swerve on that, so I am ignoring Albion Park and Globe Derby . Also anyone else experiencing when writing a post it now appears not to be in any order?
@Martin-Futter looks like the forum is still playing up.
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@james-everard said in The BTC Horse Racing Thread:
@charles-cartwright Thanks Charles , will gradually get used to which courses will have the most liquidity etc. Just looking at some of the races this morning do you know what type of race is pace M. Obviously know handicaps, maidens etc but not heard of that type of race and can't seem to find any info on the internet
Think I may have found out that the Pace M description means, think it is for harness racing so swerve on that, so I am ignoring Albion Park and Globe Derby . Also anyone else experiencing when writing a post it now appears not to be in any order?
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@charles-cartwright Thanks Charles , will gradually get used to which courses will have the most liquidity etc. Just looking at some of the races this morning do you know what type of race is pace M. Obviously know handicaps, maidens etc but not heard of that type of race and can't seem to find any info on the internet
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How have people got on? I forgot to turn the AUS bot on overnight.
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Can't tell you which ones to avoid since that would surely be just based on liquidity which you need to watch.
I can tell you though that for Saturday, the two big meetings are at Royal Randwick in Sydney and Ascot in WA.
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Can any of the more experienced traders let me know of which courses to avoid in the Australian Market as I saw Martin mention something earlier about avoiding a certain tracks thanks
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@terry-cooke On the UK markets you can use the website Timeform (Part of betfair). They post the lowest point matched (that has been traded over £100). Usually takes a couple of hours and is free although you need to sign up for an account.
Just logged on and it looks like only UK racing.
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@terry-cooke said in The BTC Horse Racing Thread:
@james-everard In fact how are you going to paper trade this, just with the odds live when the race is live and make a note of how many would have matched?
Sorry mate not explaining myself properly. What I am doing is laying the field automatically pre race at 1.82 and for it to go inplay. Shouldn't have said paper trading what I meant is recording the results on my notebook. I can then evaluate after a couple of months which particular courses, race types etc will be the profitable way to go forward.
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@martin-futter Ah good shout. I'm guessing that once the market has closed and you have clicked on to another market there is no way to go back to view the graphs?
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@terry-cooke you can check the graphs
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@james-everard In fact how are you going to paper trade this, just with the odds live when the race is live and make a note of how many would have matched?
