The BTC Horse Racing Thread

Richard Latimer

@ryan-carruthers said in The BTC Horse Racing Thread:

@alan-steward Hmmm I think so, been a while since I used fairbot for horse racing and used these features should be 'Keep'

Fairbot is a beast!

@Ryan-Carruthers I just downloaded fairbot as a trial but unless I'm mistaken it won't let you set up a rule to only lay the field when fav is 4.0+?

Any ideas?

Betfair Bot Manager is a lot more pricy.

Richard Latimer

I'm surprised this spreadsheet is still here from 2014 but it is. Massive amount of data from 2014-2018. Seems less runners not necessarily a bad thing.

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1TrjQbqCma6WrZjuyR-mkXEmgkBMpw73U3mOvsjBSSVQ/edit#gid=0

Richard Latimer

@martin-futter Depends. If you match 3 at those odds you're only losing a little and if you match 4 at 3.35 then it's profit.

That last race matched 3 @ 3.35
2 @ 2.32

So only small losses there. But then 1.67, 1.34 and 1.07 would all have lost.

The race before though would have been quids in. I think 4 matched @ 3.35, 3 @ 2.32 & 2@ 1.67 & 1.34. The only 1 that outright lost was the 1.07.

Richard Latimer

@richard-latimer said in The BTC Horse Racing Thread:

@keith-dow said in The BTC Horse Racing Thread:

@james-everard Yeah. I agree mate, I don't use automation. I think a few of them have deals on with servers but it'll cost an extra monthly subscription. You can always set up the trade on the Betfair website and leave it. Just manually put it all in and set it to 'Keep'. That's what I have been doing. To be honest though I don't think the liquidity it too good overnight from what I've seen on my results. Not sure it's worth doing. Morning and Evening seem to be a bit better.

You can't rule out when short price favs enter the fray either.

Thought I was replying to a recent post but not so sure now haha!!

Richard Latimer

@keith-dow said in The BTC Horse Racing Thread:

@james-everard Yeah. I agree mate, I don't use automation. I think a few of them have deals on with servers but it'll cost an extra monthly subscription. You can always set up the trade on the Betfair website and leave it. Just manually put it all in and set it to 'Keep'. That's what I have been doing. To be honest though I don't think the liquidity it too good overnight from what I've seen on my results. Not sure it's worth doing. Morning and Evening seem to be a bit better.

You can't rule out when short price favs enter the fray either.

Martin

@richard-latimer interesting idea worth testing. Would you drop above 2?

Richard Latimer

@martin-futter what do you think about the other thing I linked? Essentially drip laying the field?

Richard Latimer

@martin-futter Yeah I know

Richard Latimer

@richard-latimer said in The BTC Horse Racing Thread:

http://www.sportismadeforbetting.com/2009/04/lay-field-my-favourite-racing-strategy.html

This is very interesting. Not just laying at 1 price but several staggered steps for each. I guess it's a bit like the split stake in football.

@Martin-Futter what do you think?

That particular strategy would have seen loads matched on the last and a 1.34 price turned over.

Martin

@richard-latimer we had 1.01 already today

Richard Latimer

http://www.sportismadeforbetting.com/2009/04/lay-field-my-favourite-racing-strategy.html

This is very interesting. Not just laying at 1 price but several staggered steps for each. I guess it's a bit like the split stake in football.

@Martin-Futter what do you think?

Richard Latimer

Going on nothing than good solid reasoning I imagine 2.04 is a good place to put each lay. We all know people always gravitate to a round number so 2.0 will be harder to match than 2.02. But then I would guess the same applies to the number directly after 2.0. A certain amount of people probably think they are being clever by going at 2.02 which of course they are.......to an extent.........until someone jumps ahead of 2.02.

I'm also wondering if doing a blanket lay the field @ 1.01 would be a good idea. The articles I've read point out a blanket lay the field @ 2.0 is a losing prospect but I'm sure we already knew this.

However a blanket lay the field @ 1.01 is a winner even if laying every single UK race on the schedule 24/7 52 weeks a year!

I wonder what kinds of races are more likely to see 1.01 turned over (same as we are allready doing or a whole new set of criteria?)......?

Richard Latimer

@martin-futter I've added with all the details I know but other than fave price was over 4.0 and there were at least 4 horses under 10.0 I'm not sure on exact details.

Richard Latimer

I make that it now until 20:20. Does everyone concur?

Martin

@richard-latimer just put 1.95

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@alan-steward said in The BTC Horse Racing Thread:

Yep 4 matched at 1.95... Am going to take a back seat view now am cooking the good lady one of my special cook to order curries

What was your criteria for that one? It didn’t make my filter of 9 runners and fav bsp of 4+

Martin

@keith-dow can you add it to the community sheet bud?

Richard Latimer

@martin-futter don't know lowest price though sorry.

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Yep 4 matched at 1.95... Am going to take a back seat view now am cooking the good lady one of my special cook to order curries

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First race lost, second race a bonanza!