The BTC Horse Racing Thread

james everard

@martin-futter Two weeks then , things are starting to click into place , probably best sport is slowly coming back rather than all at once for a trading perspective will help with mentalilty

Martin

Looks like UK racing will be back June 1st!

Richard Latimer

Around 2.5 points down at the end of that experiment. Still think it could work with a couple of tweaks.

Firstly there was nowhere near enough liquidity last night given it was a two bit course that no one cares about (suspending midway through a race when short price fave already matched super unhelpful).

Secondly I got matched on a 5f. Too short I think.

Thirdly, matched on a couple of faves pre race so when price short as 2.5ish prob good idea to lower lay price for that horse.

May try again on Tampa tonight.

Richard Latimer

Ok well I'm thinking that may have been a scratch but for some reason betfair suspended the market inplay. FFS!!

Richard Latimer

@richard-latimer said in The BTC Horse Racing Thread:

Next the 00:54

Laying @ 2.04

Tun Tun
Brets Legacy
Antagonizer
Ready To Charm

That one no good.

Next is 01:20:

Lay @ 2.04

Caladan
Schlosser
Poshsky

Richard Latimer

Next the 00:54

Laying @ 2.04

Tun Tun
Brets Legacy
Antagonizer
Ready To Charm

Richard Latimer

@richard-latimer said in The BTC Horse Racing Thread:

Next one unlikely to match but I'm laying Windsor Calling at 2.04 regardless in the 00:28

No chance in matching but saved a small red by leaving the ones with late pace.

Richard Latimer

Next one unlikely to match but I'm laying Windsor Calling at 2.04 regardless in the 00:28

Richard Latimer

@richard-latimer said in The BTC Horse Racing Thread:

So going on my idea to lay frontrunners who've dropped in price I'll be trying the following in Charlestown at midnight.

Lay:

Break Dancin
Marylee

@2.04

Considered Sing Frosty but leaving this one on account of the late pace meaning it's more likely to mount a sustained challenge until the bitter end.

Well that worked on the first race.

Richard Latimer

So going on my idea to lay frontrunners who've dropped in price I'll be trying the following in Charlestown at midnight.

Lay:

Break Dancin
Marylee

@2.04

Considered Sing Frosty but leaving this one on account of the late pace meaning it's more likely to mount a sustained challenge until the bitter end.

Richard Latimer

@james-everard said in The BTC Horse Racing Thread:

@richard-latimer Sorry I see . Certainly worth a try, an addition might be to look for early front runners but not runners who are in the top 4 for the late pace scores but whether the odds would come down low enough? What odds would you be looking to go in at 2.04?

Yeah I'm currently looking at this myself. Whether to lay Early pace 1 and 2 but leave late pace. Or lay early pace 1 and 2 at one price and late pace at a lower price.

The quicker the competing horse is travelling at the end then surely the lower that price could get.

Maybe 2.04 for the earlies and 1.51-1.52 for any earlies that also have late pace.

james everard

@richard-latimer Sorry I see . Certainly worth a try, an addition might be to look for early front runners but not runners who are in the top 4 for the late pace scores but whether the odds would come down low enough? What odds would you be looking to go in at 2.04?

Richard Latimer

@james-everard said in The BTC Horse Racing Thread:

@richard-latimer Whether the data is all correct I would imagine it would be so I have traded a couple of races looking at the early 1st pace highest horses, put in a back trade just before the off and then put in a lay green all selections a few ticks down.

I'm not talking about backing any of them so if they run poorly I lose nothing. No, I'm just wondering if some of these front runners can get to a position where the price is good enough for me to lay at reduced liability without winning.

james everard

@angus-macleod Exactly what I have done but all this modern technology confuses my little brain with automation , bring back the abacus!

james everard

@richard-latimer Whether the data is all correct I would imagine it would be so I have traded a couple of races looking at the early 1st pace highest horses, put in a back trade just before the off and then put in a lay green all selections a few ticks down.

Richard Latimer

I'm considering taking a different slant to everyone else on the frontrunners found in betamerica.com and laying them in running at a much lower price.

Angus Macleod

@Alan-Steward Bots are completely alien to me, never tried setting anything like that up so I take my hat off to folk who can do that stuff! Definitely have a play about with it and see what you think. In all honesty I only started using in play trader a year or so back when I was just straight laying the favourite at odds of 1.99 but soon stopped that as the losing runs were too many for my liking.

@james-everard I'm with you there mate, I am no professional at all either lol, just started playing around with the software and looking up youtube videos about stuff I wasn't sure about. I don't really use in play trader for scalping, just place my trades on the ladder and thats it really. My scalping/ B2L has all been manual so far.

james everard

@angus-macleod said in The BTC Horse Racing Thread:

@Alan-Steward I use the "Manual Bet" tab to do lay the field but the in play trader is something different. Do you have Bet Angel Professional? I believe its only on the Professional version of Bet Angel but I may be wrong on that

https://www.betangel.com/in-play-trader/

Hi Angus , I have bet angel Proffesional as well, ( probably no an apt description for my computer skills lol). I had had for a year or so and seen the icon but didn't understand. Looks quite complicated for me . Do you use it for your b2l inplay trades?

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@angus-macleod Yes mate I use the Professional version... Not seen that yet I will look into it... Am trying to collect the data for "Lowest Traded Price" for my bot file but it's currently only logging pre off prices or certainly not showing what I have in the Lowest Traded Price column within my Manual Betting Tab at end of the race

Angus Macleod

@Alan-Steward I use the "Manual Bet" tab to do lay the field but the in play trader is something different. Do you have Bet Angel Professional? I believe its only on the Professional version of Bet Angel but I may be wrong on that

https://www.betangel.com/in-play-trader/