The BTC Horse Racing Thread
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Running behind today. After a lot of thought I have decided to concentrate on the normal trobs but make them Handicap only. They perform far better as does most things horse racing on Hcaps. I will however be posting LTB/s to trade manually. The bot just kept trading out too soon on the stop loss no matter what I did.
So Filtered Trobs 3.5-9 Odds Range
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@john-folan said in The BTC Horse Racing Thread:
My shortlist for a bit of LTB action today
These have been brilliant today. The bot is just crap on the flat. But manually it works if you get out at the first sign of trouble.
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This lot are all hold ups with crap win records. They should be good for a 6-12 tick Lay to Back. If it starts front running and the odds drop trade out for a loss DO NOT stay in hoping it will fade. Obvious signs of this are if the commentator mentions the horses name a lot and it is in the front four.
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Todays Trobs. All a bit static overall at the moment. Not like last June at all yet.
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Bot working better on the jumps. Might be a dead loss on the flat but I will see tomorrow. Works manually though although a bit frantic.
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My shortlist for a bit of LTB action today
Read the first post on both threads.
Horse Trading Resources
https://forum.betfairtradingcommunity.com/topic/1111/john-s-horse-trading-resourcesBfBotmanager
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These are pretty much John's(Dreammaker62)'s rules for these. I've added in a minimum runner number and the LTO last three runstyles. The only thing I can't do is compare the odds to the forecast odds and the Master rating at inform is used rather than the Proform rating. This gives me a shortlist of horses (56 today) which I will drill down into and pick one for each race. They are not set and forget and will require discipline. Yesterday I had Waters Edge that I laid at 15 pre race. It went out to 27 by which time I was long traded out, but then went on to win. Once I have finished checking them I will put my final list up I will be attempting to trade today.
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Today's trobs. Usual 3.5-9 filter
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I will be watching my LTB automation experiment today. Quite excited about that
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@john-folan said in The BTC Horse Racing Thread:
Problem seems to be at the start. I’m going to try getting the hedge to kick in 5 seconds after the start and see if that sorts it. If not 10 seconds. If neither of those works I will trade it manually.
Seems to have helped. Although I traded a race manually late on where the horses odds were everywhere and it was never better than 4th and never threatened. Might have just been a late evening thing tho.
I’ll run it today properly. I can see why Dreammaker62 does nothing but this though. As long as you are brutal about trading out for a tiny loss this will make you a lot of money if you have the time and patience.
I’ll start putting the selections up as potential dogs along with a detailed explanation of how to trade them once I’ve had a bit more of a run at them.
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Problem seems to be at the start. I’m going to try getting the hedge to kick in 5 seconds after the start and see if that sorts it. If not 10 seconds. If neither of those works I will trade it manually.
Read the first post on both threads.
Horse Trading Resources
https://forum.betfairtradingcommunity.com/topic/1111/john-s-horse-trading-resourcesBfBotmanager
https://forum.betfairtradingcommunity.com/topic/2915/bfbotmanager-automation-discussion -
Manually this works a dream. I can pick out the donkeys alright and get my 12 ticks. Problem is in the automation. It hits the stop loss way too early trades out then drifts like a barge way past my 12 points. I’m trying a few different settings and entry times. It must be solvable. If it isn’t then I’ll quite happily do it manually as it’s like taking candy from a baby.
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Attempting to recreate Dreammakers LTB strategy using informs race cards on the basis I can use the new BTC software that I am (after a small conversation with Adam) very excited about to do the same thing. John (dreammaker62 is his twitter handle) only does these and he makes a tidy sum. I am going to try automation.
HCAP trob backtest still going well too. I’ve just been a bit busy with personal stuff but I’ve loads of free time over the next six weeks to really nail stuff down and give you real value to work with.
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1 point across the two today. Only a couple of Hcaps tomorrow
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Same as usual today. 3.5-9
Filtered Trobs
HCaps
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Todays. 3.5-9 as usual on both
Filtered I won't be doing the Novice so watch it win
Hcaps
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Scratch all round yesterday. Plenty of action today. 3.5-9 as usual
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Todays. 3.5-9 odds range
Filtered Trobs
Hcaps
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2 lost on the filtered and scratch on the hcaps
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A nice day's results all round yesterday. Plenty to go at today. 3.5-9 odds range as per usual on both.
Filtered Trobs and Win
Handicap Trobs and Win
For the sake of clarity I am doing all the selections I post for trobs. All of the filtered for the win and the flat hcaps for the win as well. Long term the wins on the Hcap Jumps looks a bust so leaving alone.
I've also noticed something else when it comes to odds ranges that I will look into once I have finished the hcap backtest. Unless it is something I can play with in the BTC Software Beta. (Subtle(for me) hint ;))
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@john-folan said in The BTC Horse Racing Thread:
3.5-9 as usual
Normal Trobs
Hcaps
I am continuing with the back test. I'm upto august but its a slog now as I stopped recording bsp and irl at this point. I will persevere and get back to you as soon as I am at the end of august, then each month after that. It is time consuming though so bare with me.
Plus 4 points on the normal.
Plus 5 on the handicaps. Decent backing the win too on both sets.
Hopefully we get a run of good weather now (although a few nighttime showers to stop the ground drying too much would be nice) and we can get a good run at these.
