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The BTC Horse Racing Thread

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  • Richard LatimerR Offline
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    Richard Latimer
    replied to Dan MacKinnon on last edited by
    #3761

    @dan-mackinnon said in The BTC Horse Racing Thread:

    @martin That's what I do and I find it the most straightforward method. In regards to the Maria system where odds below 3.5 are 1pt stake, 3.6-7.4 is 0.6pt stake and 7.5-11 is 0.4pt stake. If you used the straight win/ lose SR method wouldn't that throw off your results because the staking is different?

    I might be overthinking this and getting it completely wrong, but if you set your stake based on odds, not all wins would be equal. Wouldn't it make more sense to do a SR for odds staked at 1pt, SR for odds staked at 0.6pts and another for 0.4pts?

    It simply allows you to take higher odds that very rarely lose but if they did lose at level stakes would cripple you.

    Trading Spreadsheet linked below
    https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fi/3gnk1vku1krkoyfcq37y6/Trading-Bible.xlsx?rlkey=01eqhp8u73s61iy2s814sqfll&dl=0

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  • Richard LatimerR Offline
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    replied to Dan MacKinnon on last edited by
    #3762

    @dan-mackinnon said in The BTC Horse Racing Thread:

    @john-folan I've been trying to get my head around this. So is it basically, mixed staking based on odds and a high SR. Then readjusting the stake every day.

    This might be a daft question but how do you know the SR if each odds range is weighted differently?

    It's what I'm doing with my football lays but I've adjusted my stake according to longest expected losing streak etc

    Trading Spreadsheet linked below
    https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fi/3gnk1vku1krkoyfcq37y6/Trading-Bible.xlsx?rlkey=01eqhp8u73s61iy2s814sqfll&dl=0

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    replied to Martin on last edited by
    #3763

    @martin That's what I do and I find it the most straightforward method. In regards to the Maria system where odds below 3.5 are 1pt stake, 3.6-7.4 is 0.6pt stake and 7.5-11 is 0.4pt stake. If you used the straight win/ lose SR method wouldn't that throw off your results because the staking is different?

    I might be overthinking this and getting it completely wrong, but if you set your stake based on odds, not all wins would be equal. Wouldn't it make more sense to do a SR for odds staked at 1pt, SR for odds staked at 0.6pts and another for 0.4pts?

    “Greed moves the goalposts” - Ryan Holiday

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  • MartinM Offline
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    Martin btc team
    replied to Dan MacKinnon on last edited by
    #3764

    @dan-mackinnon you could track it separately. What I do is one column excel ‘won?’ Another column ‘total’ then I put 1 or 0 in the win column if it wins, always out 1 in the total. I then do a sum of the total wins and divide it by the total to work out the strike rate.

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    replied to John Folan on last edited by
    #3765

    @john-folan I've been trying to get my head around this. So is it basically, mixed staking based on odds and a high SR. Then readjusting the stake every day.

    This might be a daft question but how do you know the SR if each odds range is weighted differently?

    “Greed moves the goalposts” - Ryan Holiday

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  • John FolanJ Offline
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    wrote on last edited by
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    This might actually be interesting to people. People bang on about Maria Staking a lot. Well after a little research I have found her original thread!!

    http://web.archive.org/web/20080731055615/http://www.expertbettingadvice.co.uk/forum/thread18432.html

    Ive read through a little. There is nothing on how she actually chose her selections which is a real shame. She has however posted the selections along with ongoing results and her full staking plan.

    I’d love to be able to back fit these but sadly I don’t think the information needed would go back that far.

    I think it proves though if you can get a strike rate equivalent to hers then you would be well away.

    Read the first post on both threads.

    Horse Trading Resources
    https://forum.betfairtradingcommunity.com/topic/1111/john-s-horse-trading-resources

    BfBotmanager
    https://forum.betfairtradingcommunity.com/topic/2915/bfbotmanager-automation-discussion

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  • John FolanJ Offline
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    wrote on last edited by
    #3767

    Two potentials this evening. 3.5-9 odds range as usual
    0_1629883250073_Trobs.JPG

    Read the first post on both threads.

    Horse Trading Resources
    https://forum.betfairtradingcommunity.com/topic/1111/john-s-horse-trading-resources

    BfBotmanager
    https://forum.betfairtradingcommunity.com/topic/2915/bfbotmanager-automation-discussion

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  • John FolanJ Offline
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    John Folan
    wrote on last edited by
    #3768

    Two points profit and a win yesterday. No selections today.

    Read the first post on both threads.

    Horse Trading Resources
    https://forum.betfairtradingcommunity.com/topic/1111/john-s-horse-trading-resources

    BfBotmanager
    https://forum.betfairtradingcommunity.com/topic/2915/bfbotmanager-automation-discussion

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  • John FolanJ Offline
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    John Folan
    wrote on last edited by
    #3769

    Nothing matched. Here are todays
    0_1629706058681_Trobs.JPG

    Read the first post on both threads.

    Horse Trading Resources
    https://forum.betfairtradingcommunity.com/topic/1111/john-s-horse-trading-resources

    BfBotmanager
    https://forum.betfairtradingcommunity.com/topic/2915/bfbotmanager-automation-discussion

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  • John FolanJ Offline
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    John Folan
    wrote on last edited by
    #3770

    Just the one today.
    0_1629618732815_Trobs.JPG

    Read the first post on both threads.

    Horse Trading Resources
    https://forum.betfairtradingcommunity.com/topic/1111/john-s-horse-trading-resources

    BfBotmanager
    https://forum.betfairtradingcommunity.com/topic/2915/bfbotmanager-automation-discussion

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  • John FolanJ Offline
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    John Folan
    wrote on last edited by
    #3771

    Just outside the odds range yesterday and would have traded so annoying. Nothing today.

    Read the first post on both threads.

    Horse Trading Resources
    https://forum.betfairtradingcommunity.com/topic/1111/john-s-horse-trading-resources

    BfBotmanager
    https://forum.betfairtradingcommunity.com/topic/2915/bfbotmanager-automation-discussion

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  • John FolanJ Offline
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    John Folan
    wrote on last edited by
    #3772

    One point lost. One selection today. It has been really poor for numbers this year,

    3.5-9 as usual
    0_1629450910995_Trobs.JPG

    Read the first post on both threads.

    Horse Trading Resources
    https://forum.betfairtradingcommunity.com/topic/1111/john-s-horse-trading-resources

    BfBotmanager
    https://forum.betfairtradingcommunity.com/topic/2915/bfbotmanager-automation-discussion

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  • John FolanJ Offline
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    John Folan
    wrote on last edited by
    #3773

    Three at Windsor today. 3.5-9 as per usual
    0_1629358956529_Trobs.JPG

    Read the first post on both threads.

    Horse Trading Resources
    https://forum.betfairtradingcommunity.com/topic/1111/john-s-horse-trading-resources

    BfBotmanager
    https://forum.betfairtradingcommunity.com/topic/2915/bfbotmanager-automation-discussion

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  • John FolanJ Offline
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    John Folan
    replied to A Former User on last edited by
    #3774

    @anthony-ariss lovely stuff. I can’t get on with any bookies anymore 🤣🤣🤣

    Read the first post on both threads.

    Horse Trading Resources
    https://forum.betfairtradingcommunity.com/topic/1111/john-s-horse-trading-resources

    BfBotmanager
    https://forum.betfairtradingcommunity.com/topic/2915/bfbotmanager-automation-discussion

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  • ? Offline
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    wrote on last edited by
    #3775

    Nice BOG from Coral today worth an extra £80 on Runnin' Wild in 15:50 ( went for extra place and it won at 51.0 ) Would have backed it more but exchange was maxed out at the time 😞

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  • John FolanJ Offline
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    John Folan
    wrote on last edited by
    #3776

    Non runner ffs

    Read the first post on both threads.

    Horse Trading Resources
    https://forum.betfairtradingcommunity.com/topic/1111/john-s-horse-trading-resources

    BfBotmanager
    https://forum.betfairtradingcommunity.com/topic/2915/bfbotmanager-automation-discussion

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  • John FolanJ Offline
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    John Folan
    wrote on last edited by
    #3777

    Disappointing with a two point loss after a bright start. So close to breaking the high on these. Just the one today. 3.5-9 as per usual
    0_1629271805397_Trobs.JPG

    Read the first post on both threads.

    Horse Trading Resources
    https://forum.betfairtradingcommunity.com/topic/1111/john-s-horse-trading-resources

    BfBotmanager
    https://forum.betfairtradingcommunity.com/topic/2915/bfbotmanager-automation-discussion

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  • John FolanJ Offline
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    John Folan
    wrote on last edited by
    #3778

    Frustrating yesterday as would have both trobbed but were outside the odds range. Here's todays. 3.5-9 as usual
    0_1629182959703_Trobs.JPG

    Read the first post on both threads.

    Horse Trading Resources
    https://forum.betfairtradingcommunity.com/topic/1111/john-s-horse-trading-resources

    BfBotmanager
    https://forum.betfairtradingcommunity.com/topic/2915/bfbotmanager-automation-discussion

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  • John FolanJ Offline
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    John Folan
    wrote on last edited by
    #3779

    Two today. 3.5-9. as usual. @adam-williams This would be a good week for beta testing the horse software. I've just had a positive lateral flow and I'm waiting on the PCR which I've now had done so I'm going to be bored silly if that is positive as well.

    0_1629112340353_Trobs.JPG

    Read the first post on both threads.

    Horse Trading Resources
    https://forum.betfairtradingcommunity.com/topic/1111/john-s-horse-trading-resources

    BfBotmanager
    https://forum.betfairtradingcommunity.com/topic/2915/bfbotmanager-automation-discussion

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  • John FolanJ Offline
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    John Folan
    wrote on last edited by
    #3780

    Scratch(well - 0.04 but you get the point). Nothing today. Feet up and watch Spurs get trounced by City I guess!

    Read the first post on both threads.

    Horse Trading Resources
    https://forum.betfairtradingcommunity.com/topic/1111/john-s-horse-trading-resources

    BfBotmanager
    https://forum.betfairtradingcommunity.com/topic/2915/bfbotmanager-automation-discussion

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