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The BTC Horse Racing Thread

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  • John FolanJ Offline
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    John Folan
    wrote on last edited by
    #3781

    Nothing again today. Very poor

    Read the first post on both threads.

    Horse Trading Resources
    https://forum.betfairtradingcommunity.com/topic/1111/john-s-horse-trading-resources

    BfBotmanager
    https://forum.betfairtradingcommunity.com/topic/2915/bfbotmanager-automation-discussion

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  • John FolanJ Offline
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    John Folan
    wrote on last edited by
    #3782

    As already mentioned a one point loss yesterday. No selections today although I might have a pop at Squelch at Bath for a Dob(not a trob later)

    Read the first post on both threads.

    Horse Trading Resources
    https://forum.betfairtradingcommunity.com/topic/1111/john-s-horse-trading-resources

    BfBotmanager
    https://forum.betfairtradingcommunity.com/topic/2915/bfbotmanager-automation-discussion

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  • John FolanJ Offline
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    John Folan
    replied to A Former User on last edited by
    #3783

    @anthony-ariss said in The BTC Horse Racing Thread:

    @john-folan Thanks John - Maria Magdalene - backed at 9.0 layed at 4.50 - 1pt profit

    Sea prince backed 2.4 got out pre race at 1.98 - 0.33 profit

    And then it lost. I had a sneaky lay when it dropped below 2.0. Didn’t fancy it at that price

    Read the first post on both threads.

    Horse Trading Resources
    https://forum.betfairtradingcommunity.com/topic/1111/john-s-horse-trading-resources

    BfBotmanager
    https://forum.betfairtradingcommunity.com/topic/2915/bfbotmanager-automation-discussion

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  • John FolanJ Offline
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    John Folan
    replied to A Former User on last edited by
    #3784

    @anthony-ariss lovely stuff. Didn’t do anything on the bot so a point lost for me today.

    Read the first post on both threads.

    Horse Trading Resources
    https://forum.betfairtradingcommunity.com/topic/1111/john-s-horse-trading-resources

    BfBotmanager
    https://forum.betfairtradingcommunity.com/topic/2915/bfbotmanager-automation-discussion

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    replied to John Folan on last edited by
    #3785

    @john-folan Thanks John - Maria Magdalene - backed at 9.0 layed at 4.50 - 1pt profit

    Sea prince backed 2.4 got out pre race at 1.98 - 0.33 profit

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    replied to John Folan on last edited by
    #3786

    @john-folan said in The BTC Horse Racing Thread:

    Today's. Only one will probably match. 3.5-9 odds range. Looking forward to fiddling with these in the new HRS. I have some ideas for different angles re classes and odds ranges. Hopefully give us another stream of selections. 🙂
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    Thanks John - Maria Magdalene - backed at 9.0 layed at 4.50

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  • John FolanJ Offline
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    John Folan
    wrote on last edited by John Folan
    #3787

    Today's. Only one will probably match. 3.5-9 odds range. Looking forward to fiddling with these in the new HRS. I have some ideas for different angles re classes and odds ranges. Hopefully give us another stream of selections. 🙂
    0_1630402513085_Trobs.JPG

    Read the first post on both threads.

    Horse Trading Resources
    https://forum.betfairtradingcommunity.com/topic/1111/john-s-horse-trading-resources

    BfBotmanager
    https://forum.betfairtradingcommunity.com/topic/2915/bfbotmanager-automation-discussion

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  • John FolanJ Offline
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    John Folan
    wrote on last edited by
    #3788

    No matches for me on the trobs yesterday. Will do today’s in a moment. Been tidying up my horse resource thread. All the goodies are in the first post. I’ve added my two important threads to my signature as well to make everyone’s lives easier. I’ll be adding more over the coming weeks. Especially as the much anticipated and eagerly awaited horse trading software is not far away.

    Read the first post on both threads.

    Horse Trading Resources
    https://forum.betfairtradingcommunity.com/topic/1111/john-s-horse-trading-resources

    BfBotmanager
    https://forum.betfairtradingcommunity.com/topic/2915/bfbotmanager-automation-discussion

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  • ? Offline
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    A Former User
    wrote on last edited by
    #3789

    @john-folan said in The BTC Horse Racing Thread:

    When you are doing lay to backs and you get an 8 tick drift before the off. Take the profit and go and make a nice cup of tea

    Always!

    Nice work John!

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  • John FolanJ Offline
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    John Folan
    wrote on last edited by John Folan
    #3790

    When you are doing lay to backs and you get an 8 tick drift before the off. Take the profit and go and make a nice cup of tea 🙂

    Managed to do the same in the next race. This happens a lot with these. Nice angle for a bit of pre race action. To put it in real terms thats £7.50 approx per race(£50 stakes) for doing absolutely nothing.

    You can pick these using the IRTT as well. Check its pace profile. When did it last win? Then read comments. Races with odds on or shorter odds faves are a good target as everything else just drifts after the start.

    Read the first post on both threads.

    Horse Trading Resources
    https://forum.betfairtradingcommunity.com/topic/1111/john-s-horse-trading-resources

    BfBotmanager
    https://forum.betfairtradingcommunity.com/topic/2915/bfbotmanager-automation-discussion

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  • John FolanJ Offline
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    John Folan
    wrote on last edited by
    #3791

    Another two points on the Trob and a win as well.
    These have kicked on nicely since the crowds have returned. I’m assuming this variable has affected the football as well. Anything that changes your usual trading circumstances needs to be accounted for. That’s why some football is no doubt still
    Up the shitter. Happily at the moment the geegees do not have this problem.

    Read the first post on both threads.

    Horse Trading Resources
    https://forum.betfairtradingcommunity.com/topic/1111/john-s-horse-trading-resources

    BfBotmanager
    https://forum.betfairtradingcommunity.com/topic/2915/bfbotmanager-automation-discussion

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  • John FolanJ Offline
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    John Folan
    wrote on last edited by
    #3792

    Nice work yesterday. Only the one today. 3.5-9 as per usual
    0_1630228019459_Trobs.JPG

    Read the first post on both threads.

    Horse Trading Resources
    https://forum.betfairtradingcommunity.com/topic/1111/john-s-horse-trading-resources

    BfBotmanager
    https://forum.betfairtradingcommunity.com/topic/2915/bfbotmanager-automation-discussion

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  • John FolanJ Offline
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    John Folan
    wrote on last edited by
    #3793

    One point profit from two trades that hit the odds filters yesterday. Here are today's. 3.5-9 as usual. Glad people like Anthony are finding other ways to trade these 🙂
    0_1630138453430_Trobs.JPG

    Read the first post on both threads.

    Horse Trading Resources
    https://forum.betfairtradingcommunity.com/topic/1111/john-s-horse-trading-resources

    BfBotmanager
    https://forum.betfairtradingcommunity.com/topic/2915/bfbotmanager-automation-discussion

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  • ? Offline
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    A Former User
    wrote on last edited by
    #3794

    had your selection of brideswell lad @ 7.60 and set lay at 3.80 ( 0.5 pt profit )

    and had platinum card @ 7.40 and got out at 4.90 ( 0.25 pt profit )

    left out the others

    Thanks

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  • John FolanJ Offline
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    John Folan
    wrote on last edited by
    #3795

    Nothing matched yesrterday. Again annoying as it would have traded. here are today's. 3.5-9 as usual
    0_1630058938491_Trobs.JPG

    Read the first post on both threads.

    Horse Trading Resources
    https://forum.betfairtradingcommunity.com/topic/1111/john-s-horse-trading-resources

    BfBotmanager
    https://forum.betfairtradingcommunity.com/topic/2915/bfbotmanager-automation-discussion

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  • John FolanJ Offline
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    John Folan
    replied to Ryan on last edited by
    #3796

    @ryan Massey's site is a bit of a mess tbh. I'll wait for the BTC software. I've made some notes and got some ideas anyway 🙂

    Read the first post on both threads.

    Horse Trading Resources
    https://forum.betfairtradingcommunity.com/topic/1111/john-s-horse-trading-resources

    BfBotmanager
    https://forum.betfairtradingcommunity.com/topic/2915/bfbotmanager-automation-discussion

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  • Richard LatimerR Offline
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    Richard Latimer
    replied to Ryan on last edited by
    #3797

    @ryan said in The BTC Horse Racing Thread:

    Maria is the pot at the end of the rainbow - I think it's driven men mad for years trying to chase the system, build their own - I know I lost hours looking at ratings etc... trying to build something and I did very very well laying horses in the early days.

    It's not to say nobody has ever replicated that kind of success in private but publicly it's a one and only thus far.

    Trading Spreadsheet linked below
    https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fi/3gnk1vku1krkoyfcq37y6/Trading-Bible.xlsx?rlkey=v8arsy1si4v0651ser69coa45&st=4r1o63le&dl=0

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  • John FolanJ Offline
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    John Folan
    wrote on last edited by
    #3798

    Nothing matched on the Trobs yesterday. Just the one selection today. 3.5-9 odds range as usual. It's currently way outside that though.
    0_1629969853265_Trobs.JPG

    Read the first post on both threads.

    Horse Trading Resources
    https://forum.betfairtradingcommunity.com/topic/1111/john-s-horse-trading-resources

    BfBotmanager
    https://forum.betfairtradingcommunity.com/topic/2915/bfbotmanager-automation-discussion

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  • S Offline
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    Stuart Capstick
    wrote on last edited by
    #3799

    Mathematically, Maria doesn't make that much sense. For perfect risk management, you'd lay per individual case. However, any risk management is better than none.

    The keys to it seem to be:

    a) The compounding/ratcheting
    b) High S/R

    I think most people have found some filter with over 80% S/R. So, if you lay under 5, you'll make money with level stakes. If you double when the bank doubles, you are compounding.

    Inevitable caveats:

    • There are people here who are laying at 9 and higher; Maria makes sense in this case.
    • As I said earlier, any form of risk management is better than none. Maria would protect against one of "those days".
    • Maria is very much based on high volumes of trades. It can't work well with selective trading. Again, that suits what some people here are doing.
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  • RyanR Offline
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    Ryan
    wrote on last edited by
    #3800

    Maria is the pot at the end of the rainbow - I think it's driven men mad for years trying to chase the system, build their own - I know I lost hours looking at ratings etc... trying to build something and I did very very well laying horses in the early days.

    Founder of BTC - Pro Trader - Main Sports Tennis and Football

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