The BTC Horse Racing Thread

David Milligan

@Jonathan-Jones that all sounds very complicated, I import directly through URL to BFBM and have ~0 issues

Greg Mitchell

@Jonathan-Jones Wow, that sounds like a complicated way of working, but whatever floats your boat.

So, forgetting your strategies that use Rank criteria and going back to your original query which was about the Lay Beaten Fav strategy, which has no rank criteria. Why not simply use the "load tips from URL" function in BFBM?

Having looked at your BFBM bot, there is no reason that I can see as to why it is putting spurious bets on. It should only be putting bets on selection that have "LBF" as the tipster. If that is not the case as you say, then there is obviously something going wrong between you downloading the qualifiers and them being imported into BFBM.

Do you have the "Tipster" column visible on your BFBM Bets tab, if so, does it show "LBF" next to the "wrong" bets?

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@Greg-Mitchell
Nope.
I dont use the software selections directly because they create additional problems. I have 3 strategies that use the rank criteria. The software updating times (being a couple of hours at times) is not helpful when non runners mess up the ranking orders. Costs me money every single week. So, every morning i download (automatically) the qualifiers of the strategies i am interested in from modified filters. I have software that imports them and then applies the rank filters. The software then checks betfair every ten mins and re-orders if it needs to because of non runners. I compare the initial creation with the official BFBM url to make sure its all correct as a starting point.

So, i know the selections that are being passed to BFBM are correct (automatically validated and because of the issues i have been having are manually validated). I have rechecked the strategies in BFBM to make sure they are using the correct provider id (did find this as a problem on a new one i am testing as i copied it but all the live ones are correct).

So now i have changed them all to a fixed stake (easier to match stuff to check) and removed the selection filter specifying the odds so its only using the imported min max odds. Will see how it goes today but the ones i have noticed the obvious problems on are as simple as it gets.

Greg Mitchell

@Jonathan-Jones Are you sure you don't have a duplicate strategy on BTC with the same "LBF" external ID?

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@John-Folan
Its the same issue as i had on just lay. I thought that was down to sim mode as everything was fine the day after but according to Adam its taking bets on horses that are not even selections and its a totally different strategy. I use the selection import via the tipster servide and i do provide min and max odds as part of that. I had left in the original selection criteria but i have removed it today so its only using the tipster service.
lbf.gz
Lay Beaten Favourite.json

Martin

@Jonathan-Jones may be worth reaching out to BFMB and seeing what they say

John Folan

@Jonathan-Jones said in The BTC Horse Racing Thread:

@Adam

Something very not right. Sounds similar to the issues i had before with just lay though as BFBM was totally making up prices i thought that was down to sim mode. This is real mode and its taking bets not even in the selections by the looks of things (and totally ignoring others that are). I am improving my logging to see whats going on but on checking those horses were not in the selections for that strategy.

Will see what happens tomorrow.

This is weird. I get a 99% match between bfbm and the software results. Can you put up the bot and the software file please? I’ll look tomorrow or Tuesday at the latest.

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@Adam

Something very not right. Sounds similar to the issues i had before with just lay though as BFBM was totally making up prices i thought that was down to sim mode. This is real mode and its taking bets not even in the selections by the looks of things (and totally ignoring others that are). I am improving my logging to see whats going on but on checking those horses were not in the selections for that strategy.

Will see what happens tomorrow.

Martin

@John-Folan for sure! That's the intention, football is so easy now it's mainly set and forget, can't wait to have horses set up the same.

John Folan

@Martin said in The BTC Horse Racing Thread:

@John-Folan I can do the footy stuff manually I'm after it for horses, seems like BFBM is the best from what the survey results suggest

It is indeed. However you will succumb to the footy stuff, especially when Adam integrates the footy software!

Adam

@Greg-Mitchell About 10:30am

Martin

@John-Folan I can do the footy stuff manually I'm after it for horses, seems like BFBM is the best from what the survey results suggest

Martin

@Greg-Mitchell said in The BTC Horse Racing Thread:

@Martin Test, Test, Test..

that's great advice thanks!

John Folan

@Martin said in The BTC Horse Racing Thread:

Going to dive more into Automation over the coming weeks, anyone got any advice to help me?

Read the manual and watch the youtube videos. Are you going for BFBM? I think as you mostly trade football it's your best option.

Greg Mitchell

@Martin Test, Test, Test..

Greg Mitchell

@Adam - what time (roughly) does the software get updated with the "Morning Price" please?

Martin

Going to dive more into Automation over the coming weeks, anyone got any advice to help me?

Adam

@Jonathan-Jones said in The BTC Horse Racing Thread:

@Adam
Do we have missing data?

My version of Lay beaten Favourite (v1 on my strats bunker) recorded only one race for yesterday and only 2 bets taken all day. In reality i have dozens over several races. Its not just that strategy thats different though, absolutely nothing matches up yesterday. Some are close but this one is mental (and its not one i have had issues with before). This is what it actually took...

The following courses are excluded in your strategy:

Newmarket
Downpatrick
Leopardstown
Newbury

That basically just leaves Carlisle. I checked the first 3 Carlisle bets on the sheet (Kehlani, Iolani, Whatacracker) and none of them were favourites last time out so wouldn't have been qualifiers in the software.

Something's not right at the BFBM end I think if those bets were all made on the lay beaten fave strategy.

Martin

@Karl-Pick see if he will do a video for you, not sure if he would but worth a try

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@Martin said in The BTC Horse Racing Thread:

@Karl-Pick did you speak to the guy who runs it? he's really helpful!

No I will message him, never thought just binned it, as it just annoyed me so much!
Thank you.