The BTC Horse Racing Thread

John Folan

Holding off on the odds on lays until I can check a couple of things I noticed going through my historical data. Except for the AW. Deffo not stopping on those.

John Folan

Just Trobs today. 3.5-9 Odds range as usual

John Folan

@martin said in The BTC Horse Racing Thread:

@john-folan same for me all week so far on the pace ratings, mad!

It’s been poor lately on the horse lays. Mind you still not much down. I might lay off them until the horse software is a bit further along as I want to use that for everything. I’ve battered it this week and it is so good.

Martin

@john-folan same for me all week so far on the pace ratings, mad!

John Folan

Literally nothing at all from me today. Will take a look at the later meet for lays once the odds start sorting themselves

John Folan

@john-folan said in The BTC Horse Racing Thread:

Still doing these the old fashioned way. 3.5-9 odds range as usual. However looking at both horses, they are both hold up types meaning they run from the back. So expect any drop to be later on in the races. They both have decent records and Hidden Depth is on a hattrick. Morraman has done well for us in the past too. Pace I think means more in sprints. Anything I have found so far in the software confirms this.

Poor day on these. Surprising with those horses who just didn’t run

John Folan

@john-folan said in The BTC Horse Racing Thread:

Got a lot of the info on here off of the race cards. Be interesting to see what difference they make. Been sparse pickings lately with a larger than average amount of odds ons winning but not even one losing LCS or LTD down despite that.

Odds On Lays 19/11

14:55 Chepstow Young Butler. Really not set the world on fire and hasn’t traded much lower than it’s start price on both outings so hasn’t threatened. Quite like the look of Last Quarter as a likely challenger. Bryony Frost on Ofyoupop as well could be there or there about.

14:30 Catterick. Minella Trump. Big jump in trip. Brianna Rose has at least matched Trumps time in these races. She has notions whilst pulling up LTO on Heavy ground(probably to protect the horse) has at least run the distance and placed before.

12:20 Ascot. Doctor Ken. Up against Pull Again Green who is on a hattrick and has won at close to this distance. Kincardine should have a say as well. Doctor Ken has not gone this far before.

16:00 Dundalk. Beauty Amazed. Cannot take seriously a horse that finished 6th in its only outing on a completely different surface. Allowable has at least run into 4th over this distance at this course

Only two matched and both won their races. Only a point down.

John Folan

Still doing these the old fashioned way. 3.5-9 odds range as usual. However looking at both horses, they are both hold up types meaning they run from the back. So expect any drop to be later on in the races. They both have decent records and Hidden Depth is on a hattrick. Morraman has done well for us in the past too. Pace I think means more in sprints. Anything I have found so far in the software confirms this.

John Folan

Got a lot of the info on here off of the race cards. Be interesting to see what difference they make. Been sparse pickings lately with a larger than average amount of odds ons winning but not even one losing LCS or LTD down despite that.

Odds On Lays 19/11

14:55 Chepstow Young Butler. Really not set the world on fire and hasn’t traded much lower than it’s start price on both outings so hasn’t threatened. Quite like the look of Last Quarter as a likely challenger. Bryony Frost on Ofyoupop as well could be there or there about.

14:30 Catterick. Minella Trump. Big jump in trip. Brianna Rose has at least matched Trumps time in these races. She has notions whilst pulling up LTO on Heavy ground(probably to protect the horse) has at least run the distance and placed before.

12:20 Ascot. Doctor Ken. Up against Pull Again Green who is on a hattrick and has won at close to this distance. Kincardine should have a say as well. Doctor Ken has not gone this far before.

16:00 Dundalk. Beauty Amazed. Cannot take seriously a horse that finished 6th in its only outing on a completely different surface. Allowable has at least run into 4th over this distance at this course

John Folan

No Trobs either. Boring day

John Folan

No odds on lays today.

Looking at Trobs in a bit.

John Folan

@angus-macleod Proform is great for straight betting, but the Inplay is a bit of a bolt on. I like his racecards but ours will be better. Plus Simon who owns it has a habit of losing his s##t at his customers in the WhatsApp group. Most entertaining. Customer service isn’t great and he thinks everyone else is less clever than him. Shame really as it is a good product but there you go

Angus Macleod

@john-folan The fact you're thinking of stopping everything else bar the in play trobs and LTB speaks volumes mate, clearly this is a gamechanger.

Haven't even looked at Proform's site in much detail in all honesty, I have one other sub that I'll be looking to get rid of when this software fully released, keep things nice and streamlined.

John Folan

@angus-macleod thanks mate. It’s in my vested interest to put a bit of work into this. I’m on the verge of abandoning everything except my trobs and the lay to backs I do in the afternoons so I can spend more time messing around with it.

It’s a bit of a learning curve when starting to use it all but Adam will sort that with some tutorials. He already did some for us and whilst he will say they aren’t very good they really were excellent.

It will blow Proforms trading offering out of the water.

Angus Macleod

Appreciate the update @John-Folan and the work that the BTC team and beta testers are doing here as already mentioned, Johns enthusiasm alone is infectious! Looking forward to getting to grips with this new bit of kit and seeing what's possible

John Folan

The testing on the horse software is going well .

I’ve really got to grips with the strategy builder. The fact you can score a set of results and then look at different filters is just so useful. There is only four months data in there at the moment as @Adam wants to make it easier for testing, but strategies are coming to light already which can then be properly back tested once all the historical data is loaded in.

This is a truly remarkable bit of kit. Once it is up and running you will not need anything else to trade the horses successfully. Adam is currently adding any ideas that me, @Martin or any of the other beta testers suggest along with bug fixes etc. It already looks different to what I was first faced with and I know there is a lot more to come based on the suggestions waiting to be added.

Utterly worth the wait. I will be throwing out anything I had from elsewhere as I will be able to do them from this probably, making them better if my Trobs experiment yesterday is anything to go by.

Fantastic work by Adam and his team.

John Folan

Odds On Lays 17/11

13:40 Warwick Edwardstone. Up against two other smart hurdlers. Not need great form wise this year.

Go easy on these at the moment. In a slump. They always come back though.

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@john-folan said in The BTC Horse Racing Thread:

@matt-ayles said in The BTC Horse Racing Thread:

@john-folan said in The BTC Horse Racing Thread:

@matt-ayles it was mad. Get a few funny days like this don’t you? Unlike Boxing Day

Boxing Day is insane. Usually somewhere between 10-15 race meetings plus a full program of football. It's the second busiest day behind Grand National.

And I am normally too pissed to trade it

I always work boxing day so I'll be out of action between 10-6 so trading won't be happening for me either

John Folan

Flipping odds on lays are annoying the crap out of me at the moment. Bank Drawdown on 7 points here. I’ve had worse but there you go.

John Folan

@matt-ayles said in The BTC Horse Racing Thread:

@john-folan said in The BTC Horse Racing Thread:

@matt-ayles it was mad. Get a few funny days like this don’t you? Unlike Boxing Day

Boxing Day is insane. Usually somewhere between 10-15 race meetings plus a full program of football. It's the second busiest day behind Grand National.

And I am normally too pissed to trade it