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The BTC Horse Racing Thread

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  • John FolanJ Offline
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    John Folan
    replied to Martin on last edited by
    #3241

    @martin said in The BTC Horse Racing Thread:

    @martin said in The BTC Horse Racing Thread:

    Pace testing today:

    6th January

    Spartan Fighter Newcastle AW 7f 2.35PM
    Healing Power Chelmsford City AW 1m 4:00 PM
    Kraka Chelmsford City AW 7f 6:00 PM

    All three finished last

    @John-Folan potential trend I'm noticing is that course and distance wins matter

    Also look at Dob/Trob rate. šŸ˜‰. Combined with pace it looks mental.

    Read the first post on both threads.

    Horse Trading Resources
    https://forum.betfairtradingcommunity.com/topic/1111/john-s-horse-trading-resources

    BfBotmanager
    https://forum.betfairtradingcommunity.com/topic/2915/bfbotmanager-automation-discussion

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  • MartinM Offline
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    Martin btc team
    replied to Martin on last edited by
    #3242

    @martin said in The BTC Horse Racing Thread:

    Pace testing today:

    6th January

    Spartan Fighter Newcastle AW 7f 2.35PM
    Healing Power Chelmsford City AW 1m 4:00 PM
    Kraka Chelmsford City AW 7f 6:00 PM

    All three finished last

    @John-Folan potential trend I'm noticing is that course and distance wins matter

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  • MartinM Offline
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    Martin btc team
    replied to Dan MacKinnon on last edited by
    #3243

    @dan-mackinnon said in The BTC Horse Racing Thread:

    From my experience of pre-race scalping (and I'm happy to be corrected) you can use Ryan's 1 tick recycle on the horses.

    Same method as the football. Look for a horse that has had steady odds for a while and similar money either side. Back and lay either side, wait for them both to get matched and take the 1 tick. As with any scalping on any sport I would recommend software to get a better picture of what's going on. I would also suggest looking around 20-25 minutes from the race starting and getting out around 15 minutes before. After that you start getting more traders and the prices can move more than you want.

    Final pointers

    • Don't be greedy / Don't overtrade (my downfall)
    • If it moves against you get out for a scratch or 1 tick loss. There will be plenty of opportunities. Don't sit there waiting for it to recover (another of my failings!)
    • @John-Folan has given me lots of valuable advice, one of which is "start with minimum stakes because you'll only risking a few pennies"

    Thought I'd share this for anyone that had considered scalping horse racing but not sure where to start.

    great idea this! keep us updated with how it goes

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  • John FolanJ Offline
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    John Folan
    replied to Dan MacKinnon on last edited by
    #3244

    @dan-mackinnon Belter of a strategy this. Nice write up šŸ˜€.

    Read the first post on both threads.

    Horse Trading Resources
    https://forum.betfairtradingcommunity.com/topic/1111/john-s-horse-trading-resources

    BfBotmanager
    https://forum.betfairtradingcommunity.com/topic/2915/bfbotmanager-automation-discussion

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    Dan MacKinnon
    wrote on last edited by
    #3245

    From my experience of pre-race scalping (and I'm happy to be corrected) you can use Ryan's 1 tick recycle on the horses.

    Same method as the football. Look for a horse that has had steady odds for a while and similar money either side. Back and lay either side, wait for them both to get matched and take the 1 tick. As with any scalping on any sport I would recommend software to get a better picture of what's going on. I would also suggest looking around 20-25 minutes from the race starting and getting out around 15 minutes before. After that you start getting more traders and the prices can move more than you want.

    Final pointers

    • Don't be greedy / Don't overtrade (my downfall)
    • If it moves against you get out for a scratch or 1 tick loss. There will be plenty of opportunities. Don't sit there waiting for it to recover (another of my failings!)
    • @John-Folan has given me lots of valuable advice, one of which is "start with minimum stakes because you'll only risking a few pennies"

    Thought I'd share this for anyone that had considered scalping horse racing but not sure where to start.

    ā€œGreed moves the goalpostsā€ - Ryan Holiday

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  • John FolanJ Offline
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    John Folan
    wrote on last edited by
    #3246

    The going has knackered my selections today.

    Read the first post on both threads.

    Horse Trading Resources
    https://forum.betfairtradingcommunity.com/topic/1111/john-s-horse-trading-resources

    BfBotmanager
    https://forum.betfairtradingcommunity.com/topic/2915/bfbotmanager-automation-discussion

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  • MartinM Offline
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    Martin btc team
    wrote on last edited by
    #3247

    Pace testing today:

    6th January

    Spartan Fighter Newcastle AW 7f 2.35PM
    Healing Power Chelmsford City AW 1m 4:00 PM
    Kraka Chelmsford City AW 7f 6:00 PM

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  • MartinM Offline
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    Martin btc team
    replied to Martin on last edited by
    #3248

    @martin said in The BTC Horse Racing Thread:

    Back on the pace selections, just testing:

    5th January

    Airshow Kempton AW 6f 3.55PM

    Don't love these two below but monitoring the more marginal ones too.

    Maahi Ve Wolves AW 7f 12.50PM
    Eloy D'amerval Dundalk AW 1m 3.45PM

    Airshow dobbed, trobbed and won and the other two I wasn't sure on were crap but that's actually good as I can a potential difference in strength of selections

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  • John FolanJ Offline
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    John Folan
    wrote on last edited by
    #3249

    Nothing from me on the Dob/Trob/Win front. What I am finding is most of the strategies for these seem better on the flat.

    Must be something I’m missing to increase selections on the jumps. A job for the new software I think.

    Read the first post on both threads.

    Horse Trading Resources
    https://forum.betfairtradingcommunity.com/topic/1111/john-s-horse-trading-resources

    BfBotmanager
    https://forum.betfairtradingcommunity.com/topic/2915/bfbotmanager-automation-discussion

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  • John FolanJ Offline
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    John Folan
    replied to Martin on last edited by
    #3250

    @martin said in The BTC Horse Racing Thread:

    @john-folan let me know what you find!

    I’ll stick it up after Adam he done the next update. Be good for people to see what it’s capable of.

    Read the first post on both threads.

    Horse Trading Resources
    https://forum.betfairtradingcommunity.com/topic/1111/john-s-horse-trading-resources

    BfBotmanager
    https://forum.betfairtradingcommunity.com/topic/2915/bfbotmanager-automation-discussion

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  • MartinM Offline
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    Martin btc team
    replied to John Folan on last edited by
    #3251

    @john-folan let me know what you find!

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  • John FolanJ Offline
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    John Folan
    replied to Martin on last edited by John Folan
    #3252

    @martin said in The BTC Horse Racing Thread:

    Back on the pace selections, just testing:

    5th January

    Airshow Kempton AW 6f 3.55PM

    Don't love these two below but monitoring the more marginal ones too.

    Maahi Ve Wolves AW 7f 12.50PM
    Eloy D'amerval Dundalk AW 1m 3.45PM

    Those Pace Ratings look mustard. Got a couple of things running off them ready for when the software is tested properly.

    Read the first post on both threads.

    Horse Trading Resources
    https://forum.betfairtradingcommunity.com/topic/1111/john-s-horse-trading-resources

    BfBotmanager
    https://forum.betfairtradingcommunity.com/topic/2915/bfbotmanager-automation-discussion

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  • MartinM Offline
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    Martin btc team
    wrote on last edited by Martin
    #3253

    Back on the pace selections, just testing:

    5th January

    Airshow Kempton AW 6f 3.55PM

    Don't love these two below but monitoring the more marginal ones too.

    Maahi Ve	Wolves	AW	7f	12.50PM
    Eloy D'amerval	Dundalk	AW	1m	3.45PM
    
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  • John FolanJ Offline
    John FolanJ Offline
    John Folan
    wrote on last edited by
    #3254

    Nothing today. Playing with the software again before Adam updates it this week šŸ™‚

    Read the first post on both threads.

    Horse Trading Resources
    https://forum.betfairtradingcommunity.com/topic/1111/john-s-horse-trading-resources

    BfBotmanager
    https://forum.betfairtradingcommunity.com/topic/2915/bfbotmanager-automation-discussion

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  • John FolanJ Offline
    John FolanJ Offline
    John Folan
    wrote on last edited by
    #3255

    Doubt these will hit the 3.5-9 odds range but you never know
    0_1641116637074_Trobs.JPG

    Read the first post on both threads.

    Horse Trading Resources
    https://forum.betfairtradingcommunity.com/topic/1111/john-s-horse-trading-resources

    BfBotmanager
    https://forum.betfairtradingcommunity.com/topic/2915/bfbotmanager-automation-discussion

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  • John FolanJ Offline
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    John Folan
    replied to A Former User on last edited by
    #3256

    @anthony-ariss said in The BTC Horse Racing Thread:

    @john-folan said in The BTC Horse Racing Thread:

    Absolutely nothing today which surprised me.

    Happy New Year John!

    Happy New Year Anthony. This is going to be our year

    Read the first post on both threads.

    Horse Trading Resources
    https://forum.betfairtradingcommunity.com/topic/1111/john-s-horse-trading-resources

    BfBotmanager
    https://forum.betfairtradingcommunity.com/topic/2915/bfbotmanager-automation-discussion

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  • ? Offline
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    A Former User
    replied to John Folan on last edited by
    #3257

    @john-folan said in The BTC Horse Racing Thread:

    Absolutely nothing today which surprised me.

    Happy New Year John!

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  • John FolanJ Offline
    John FolanJ Offline
    John Folan
    wrote on last edited by
    #3258

    Absolutely nothing today which surprised me.

    Read the first post on both threads.

    Horse Trading Resources
    https://forum.betfairtradingcommunity.com/topic/1111/john-s-horse-trading-resources

    BfBotmanager
    https://forum.betfairtradingcommunity.com/topic/2915/bfbotmanager-automation-discussion

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    Nick Terracciano
    replied to John Folan on last edited by
    #3259

    @john-folan happy new year to you glad its started with some good news.

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  • John FolanJ Offline
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    John Folan
    replied to Nick Terracciano on last edited by
    #3260

    @nick-terracciano happily no cancer. Thanks for the kind thoughts. I honestly thought he was done as the vet was convinced that’s what it was. They still have no idea what caused it and I’m not poking the bear anymore until I have to. He’s back to himself which I really wasn’t expecting. Happy New Year mate.

    Read the first post on both threads.

    Horse Trading Resources
    https://forum.betfairtradingcommunity.com/topic/1111/john-s-horse-trading-resources

    BfBotmanager
    https://forum.betfairtradingcommunity.com/topic/2915/bfbotmanager-automation-discussion

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