The BTC Horse Racing Thread
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@martin said in The BTC Horse Racing Thread:
Awful day yesterday, I'm going to go back to paper trading these for a while.
What I have noticed is that ones who come in closer to the off often win, so I may just remove any that would not qualify when I check in the morning and see if that can help.
It’s changeover month mate. Bad days happen and can hurt in horse racing. My short odd lay bot is 10 points down in three days. I’m happy with the backtest though and it has seen this before. As long as it’s not out of kilter with previous lows they should be more than fine.
Not a bad idea to just watch the results for a few weeks and see if it falls within the data set you have.
Also really good point on steamers. A good sign the market knows.
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Awful day yesterday, I'm going to go back to paper trading these for a while.
What I have noticed is that ones who come in closer to the off often win, so I may just remove any that would not qualify when I check in the morning and see if that can help.
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@john-folan said in The BTC Horse Racing Thread:
These were crap yesterday. So were my botted short odd lays. However looking over previous results on both and April and October are always iffy as the racing switches from jumps to flat and vice versa. Nothing major and nothing to worry about. However that is another benefit of the software
.Todays trobs. Still no NHF racing.
Made back yesterdays loss in the one trade that hit the odds filter
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@john-folan iv had a little flick through excellent content from you john . Have the boys put you on the pay roll yet. As cheif tester . If not think they should. I can see the future prests / profitable members filters all containing johns strategy for ........ pmsl
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@john-folan thanks mate il have a shifty through.
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@rick-watson said in The BTC Horse Racing Thread:
hi all i invested in the long awaited holy grail last night iv watched so many videos over and over and brain my brain is hurting pmsl. has anyone come up with a basic dob strat yet that could be tinkerd with
If you scroll back over the last week on this thread and The horse software one I have posted settings for dobbing
Read the first post on both threads.
Horse Trading Resources
https://forum.betfairtradingcommunity.com/topic/1111/john-s-horse-trading-resourcesBfBotmanager
https://forum.betfairtradingcommunity.com/topic/2915/bfbotmanager-automation-discussion -
@rick-watson said in The BTC Horse Racing Thread:
hi all i invested in the long awaited holy grail last night iv watched so many videos over and over and brain my brain is hurting pmsl. has anyone come up with a basic dob strat yet that could be tinkerd with
@John-Folan has done some dobbing stuff mainly for trobs
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hi all i invested in the long awaited holy grail last night iv watched so many videos over and over and brain my brain is hurting pmsl. has anyone come up with a basic dob strat yet that could be tinkerd with
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@martin said in The BTC Horse Racing Thread:
@john-folan need to have a good look at the months myself on mine, if only to prepare
And it’s so easy. You can group by months at the bottom. I always check the different group breakdowns to see if there are good filtering angles. Very clever that.
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@john-folan need to have a good look at the months myself on mine, if only to prepare
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These were crap yesterday. So were my botted short odd lays. However looking over previous results on both and April and October are always iffy as the racing switches from jumps to flat and vice versa. Nothing major and nothing to worry about. However that is another benefit of the software
.Todays trobs. Still no NHF racing.
Read the first post on both threads.
Horse Trading Resources
https://forum.betfairtradingcommunity.com/topic/1111/john-s-horse-trading-resourcesBfBotmanager
https://forum.betfairtradingcommunity.com/topic/2915/bfbotmanager-automation-discussion -
@martin said in The BTC Horse Racing Thread:
Beaten Fav Lays 3-11 odds only
29/04/2022 14:25 Newmarket Noble Truth N Newmarket 3.25
29/04/2022 15:00 Newmarket Another Batt N Newmarket 8
29/04/2022 16:40 Cheltenham Envoye Special N Cheltenham 3.25
29/04/2022 17:50 Cheltenham Tel'Art N Cheltenham 9.8
29/04/2022 18:10 Newcastle Ghost Rider N Newcastle 3.7
29/04/2022 19:35 Cheltenham Law Of Gold N Cheltenham 7.6
29/04/2022 19:45 Punchestown O'Moore Park N Punchestown 8
29/04/2022 19:55 Newcastle Unashamed N Newcastle 3.9Pace Lays 3-11 odds only
29/04/2022 16:25 Goodwood Wodeton 10 Goodwood 8.4
29/04/2022 18:10 Newcastle Harswell Duke 10 Newcastle 11
29/04/2022 18:25 Cheltenham Dandy Dan 10 Cheltenham 11?
29/04/2022 19:20 Newcastle Dave Dexter 10 Newcastle 11?Short Odds Lays 1.69-2.20 odds only
None
Dandy Dan you cheeky swine!
About a 5pt loss
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@keith said in The BTC Horse Racing Thread:
@kevin-pepper yes back fitting is a concern of mine too. Even I can make a system look good when I know which horse won the race
until @Adam can build us all a Delorean there will still be some forward testing as we all know 
I have a good baseline for this, is it profitable before any further filtering? If so then I don't see any issue with the filtering to improve. Backtesting is a game changer for myself personally.
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@kevin-pepper yes back fitting is a concern of mine too. Even I can make a system look good when I know which horse won the race
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@martin said in The BTC Horse Racing Thread:
@nick-terracciano said in The BTC Horse Racing Thread:
@martin Copied your beaten fav stratergy, testing it on Bf Bot manager, would have no chance with just the software and no forum. Has Adam started on the football software yet?
would example strategies that you could see help?
Speaking for myself this would help tremendously, the systems that @John-Folan posted have helped a great deal but the more the merrier!
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@martin said in The BTC Horse Racing Thread:
@nick-terracciano said in The BTC Horse Racing Thread:
@martin Copied your beaten fav stratergy, testing it on Bf Bot manager, would have no chance with just the software and no forum. Has Adam started on the football software yet?
would example strategies that you could see help?
I think they would for those completely new to this.
I have some experience of testing strategies but found it really useful to try and set up the strategies that @John-Folan kindly shared.
Setting them up helps you get to grips with the software and having John's settings gives you a chance to check what you're doing.
Key point for me when testing out a new strategy is to make sure you've got sound logic behind it. With a fantastic bit of kit like this it would be easy to go through several versions of a possible strategy and find some great looking results but if there's no underlying logic you've probably just ended up backfitting a random set of selections parameters. -
@nick-terracciano said in The BTC Horse Racing Thread:
@martin Copied your beaten fav stratergy, testing it on Bf Bot manager, would have no chance with just the software and no forum. Has Adam started on the football software yet?
would example strategies that you could see help?
