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The BTC Horse Racing Thread

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  • John FolanJ Offline
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    John Folan
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    #2541

    Flat Pace Backs. Back any between 2.0-25.0
    0_1655892228771_Flat Pace.JPG

    Zero Paced Dobs. Dob any over 20
    0_1655892250748_ZPD.JPG

    Read the first post on both threads.

    Horse Trading Resources
    https://forum.betfairtradingcommunity.com/topic/1111/john-s-horse-trading-resources

    BfBotmanager
    https://forum.betfairtradingcommunity.com/topic/2915/bfbotmanager-automation-discussion

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    Dan MacKinnon
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    #2542

    @john-folan when I tried using that same book I found I had to split them into long and short courses. I'm sure it can be done but using the information in his book there doesn't seem to be a one size fits all approach that I could find

    “Greed moves the goalposts” - Ryan Holiday

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  • Keith DriscollK Offline
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    Keith Driscoll
    replied to John Folan on last edited by
    #2543

    @john-folan said in The BTC Horse Racing Thread:

    Struggling a bit with this lay the favourite thing. I did revert back to the Roger Kemp book and looking at distances and runner numbers over 80% on the relevant courses it does seem to be profitable. But. You would need to set it up for every course as the distances that are profitable tend to vary as do the runner numbers. I then ask the question. Can I be arsed?

    It's worth the effort for a number of tracks, as I showed in the past with Chester. For instance, find the AW track with the shortest run in, and the same system works over certain distances. 🙂 You can also group similar tracks, Chepstow, York, Newbury, Haydock, Doncaster, etc, all have very long run-ins.

    On a totally different variable, horses that travel a long way north, tend to be better class, than those travelling the same distance south when it comes to turf races. 😉

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  • John FolanJ Offline
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    John Folan
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    #2544

    @john-folan said in The BTC Horse Racing Thread:

    Quiet today, but I should get some hits on the Short Odd Lay and Back Favourite Bots.

    Classic Trobs: Dob, Trob or Back the Win for any between 3.5-9(I've decided to keep that odds range. If it ain't broke etc).
    0_1655801681813_Trobs.JPG

    Nothing matched. One short odds lay that decided to win it’s race. Bloody liberty

    Read the first post on both threads.

    Horse Trading Resources
    https://forum.betfairtradingcommunity.com/topic/1111/john-s-horse-trading-resources

    BfBotmanager
    https://forum.betfairtradingcommunity.com/topic/2915/bfbotmanager-automation-discussion

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  • John FolanJ Offline
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    John Folan
    wrote on last edited by
    #2545

    Struggling a bit with this lay the favourite thing. I did revert back to the Roger Kemp book and looking at distances and runner numbers over 80% on the relevant courses it does seem to be profitable. But. You would need to set it up for every course as the distances that are profitable tend to vary as do the runner numbers. I then ask the question. Can I be arsed?

    Read the first post on both threads.

    Horse Trading Resources
    https://forum.betfairtradingcommunity.com/topic/1111/john-s-horse-trading-resources

    BfBotmanager
    https://forum.betfairtradingcommunity.com/topic/2915/bfbotmanager-automation-discussion

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  • John FolanJ Offline
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    John Folan
    wrote on last edited by
    #2546

    Quiet today, but I should get some hits on the Short Odd Lay and Back Favourite Bots.

    Classic Trobs: Dob, Trob or Back the Win for any between 3.5-9(I've decided to keep that odds range. If it ain't broke etc).
    0_1655801681813_Trobs.JPG

    Read the first post on both threads.

    Horse Trading Resources
    https://forum.betfairtradingcommunity.com/topic/1111/john-s-horse-trading-resources

    BfBotmanager
    https://forum.betfairtradingcommunity.com/topic/2915/bfbotmanager-automation-discussion

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  • John FolanJ Offline
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    John Folan
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    #2547

    @john-folan said in The BTC Horse Racing Thread:

    Pace Backs: Back any between 2.0-25.0
    0_1655720532303_Flat Pace.JPG

    Slow Horses. Dob any over 6
    0_1655720547169_Slow Horses.JPG

    Zero Paced Dobs
    Dob any over 20
    0_1655720563925_ZPD.JPG

    Profit on the Flat Pace and Slow Horses. 1 point loss on the ZPD’s in the money overall.

    Read the first post on both threads.

    Horse Trading Resources
    https://forum.betfairtradingcommunity.com/topic/1111/john-s-horse-trading-resources

    BfBotmanager
    https://forum.betfairtradingcommunity.com/topic/2915/bfbotmanager-automation-discussion

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  • John FolanJ Offline
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    John Folan
    wrote on last edited by
    #2548

    Pace Backs: Back any between 2.0-25.0
    0_1655720532303_Flat Pace.JPG

    Slow Horses. Dob any over 6
    0_1655720547169_Slow Horses.JPG

    Zero Paced Dobs
    Dob any over 20
    0_1655720563925_ZPD.JPG

    Read the first post on both threads.

    Horse Trading Resources
    https://forum.betfairtradingcommunity.com/topic/1111/john-s-horse-trading-resources

    BfBotmanager
    https://forum.betfairtradingcommunity.com/topic/2915/bfbotmanager-automation-discussion

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    A Former User
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    #2549

    @john-folan said in The BTC Horse Racing Thread:

    Lay The Field.

    So according to Mr Kemp, distance and runner numbers seem to be the main filters at different courses. I’m pretty sure this has something to do with the type of course(characteristics) and race type(turf, aw, chase, hurdles, nhf). I’m going to try different price points as well. 1.25, 1.5 and 1.75 for starters. Any other suggestions gratefully received. Not sure how I feel about Irish racing but will include until stats say leave alone. Since they removed their trier rule a couple of years ago some of the results over there have been ridiculous. Also fun watching Ruby Murray throwing himself off an odds on favourite when lengths clear on occasion! We must be able to crack this trading type on here.

    This is interesting, I've not read his book.
    What about class and race type? Going?

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  • John FolanJ Offline
    John FolanJ Offline
    John Folan
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    #2550

    Lay The Field.

    So according to Mr Kemp, distance and runner numbers seem to be the main filters at different courses. I’m pretty sure this has something to do with the type of course(characteristics) and race type(turf, aw, chase, hurdles, nhf). I’m going to try different price points as well. 1.25, 1.5 and 1.75 for starters. Any other suggestions gratefully received. Not sure how I feel about Irish racing but will include until stats say leave alone. Since they removed their trier rule a couple of years ago some of the results over there have been ridiculous. Also fun watching Ruby Murray throwing himself off an odds on favourite when lengths clear on occasion! We must be able to crack this trading type on here.

    Read the first post on both threads.

    Horse Trading Resources
    https://forum.betfairtradingcommunity.com/topic/1111/john-s-horse-trading-resources

    BfBotmanager
    https://forum.betfairtradingcommunity.com/topic/2915/bfbotmanager-automation-discussion

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  • John FolanJ Offline
    John FolanJ Offline
    John Folan
    wrote on last edited by
    #2551

    About a point from what matched today.

    Read the first post on both threads.

    Horse Trading Resources
    https://forum.betfairtradingcommunity.com/topic/1111/john-s-horse-trading-resources

    BfBotmanager
    https://forum.betfairtradingcommunity.com/topic/2915/bfbotmanager-automation-discussion

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  • John FolanJ Offline
    John FolanJ Offline
    John Folan
    wrote on last edited by
    #2552

    Today's
    Trobs: Anything between 3.5-9. Trob Dob or win.
    0_1655628238064_Trobs.JPG

    Slow Horses. Dob any over 6.0
    0_1655628265948_Slow Horses.JPG

    Zero Paced. Dob any over 20
    0_1655628289100_ZPD.JPG

    Read the first post on both threads.

    Horse Trading Resources
    https://forum.betfairtradingcommunity.com/topic/1111/john-s-horse-trading-resources

    BfBotmanager
    https://forum.betfairtradingcommunity.com/topic/2915/bfbotmanager-automation-discussion

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  • John FolanJ Offline
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    John Folan
    replied to Martin on last edited by
    #2553

    @martin said in The BTC Horse Racing Thread:

    @john-folan sounds like how I feel about 3pm Saturday footy matches!

    Exactly that 🤣. It’s so strange. We know they are profitable we just remember the bad days more. Strange hey?

    Read the first post on both threads.

    Horse Trading Resources
    https://forum.betfairtradingcommunity.com/topic/1111/john-s-horse-trading-resources

    BfBotmanager
    https://forum.betfairtradingcommunity.com/topic/2915/bfbotmanager-automation-discussion

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  • MartinM Offline
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    Martin btc team
    replied to John Folan on last edited by
    #2554

    @john-folan sounds like how I feel about 3pm Saturday footy matches!

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  • John FolanJ Offline
    John FolanJ Offline
    John Folan
    wrote on last edited by
    #2555

    Utter pony day today. I always had a thing about Saturdays being crap but statistically they are one of the best trading days for me long term. I think I just notice the crap ones more. Which says a lot about my mindset 🤣🤣

    Read the first post on both threads.

    Horse Trading Resources
    https://forum.betfairtradingcommunity.com/topic/1111/john-s-horse-trading-resources

    BfBotmanager
    https://forum.betfairtradingcommunity.com/topic/2915/bfbotmanager-automation-discussion

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  • John FolanJ Offline
    John FolanJ Offline
    John Folan
    wrote on last edited by
    #2556

    Nothing matched yesterday.

    Trobs: Anything between 3.5-9. Trob Dob or win.
    0_1655535869196_Trobs.JPG

    Flat Pace Backs. Back anything between 2.0 to 25.0 to win. (Or you can Trob them)
    0_1655535895676_Flat Pace.JPG

    Read the first post on both threads.

    Horse Trading Resources
    https://forum.betfairtradingcommunity.com/topic/1111/john-s-horse-trading-resources

    BfBotmanager
    https://forum.betfairtradingcommunity.com/topic/2915/bfbotmanager-automation-discussion

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  • John FolanJ Offline
    John FolanJ Offline
    John Folan
    wrote on last edited by
    #2557

    Trobs: Anything between 3.5-9. Trob Dob or win.
    0_1655462184069_Trobs.JPG

    Flat Pace Backs. Back anything between 2.0 to 25.0
    0_1655462214663_Flat Pace.JPG

    Zero paced Dobs. Dob anything over 20
    0_1655462310420_ZPD.JPG

    Read the first post on both threads.

    Horse Trading Resources
    https://forum.betfairtradingcommunity.com/topic/1111/john-s-horse-trading-resources

    BfBotmanager
    https://forum.betfairtradingcommunity.com/topic/2915/bfbotmanager-automation-discussion

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  • John FolanJ Offline
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    John Folan
    replied to A Former User on last edited by
    #2558

    @keith said in The BTC Horse Racing Thread:

    @john-folan I was on yesterday's. Maybe I jinxed it 🤣

    I didn't get matched as it was under 3.0 I think i had it on your backs tho.

    Read the first post on both threads.

    Horse Trading Resources
    https://forum.betfairtradingcommunity.com/topic/1111/john-s-horse-trading-resources

    BfBotmanager
    https://forum.betfairtradingcommunity.com/topic/2915/bfbotmanager-automation-discussion

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  • ? Offline
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    A Former User
    replied to John Folan on last edited by
    #2559

    @john-folan I was on yesterday's. Maybe I jinxed it 🤣

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  • John FolanJ Offline
    John FolanJ Offline
    John Folan
    wrote on last edited by
    #2560

    Didn't match yesterday.

    One again today. Dob, trob or win if above 3.0
    0_1655372769186_Trobs.JPG

    Read the first post on both threads.

    Horse Trading Resources
    https://forum.betfairtradingcommunity.com/topic/1111/john-s-horse-trading-resources

    BfBotmanager
    https://forum.betfairtradingcommunity.com/topic/2915/bfbotmanager-automation-discussion

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