The BTC Horse Racing Thread
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@jonathan-jones that doesn’t sound great, what do you think is the most reliable bot service?
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@darryll said in The BTC Horse Racing Thread:
@jonathan-jones I'm interested to hear your findings so please do report back.
Used the streaming api in fairbot yesterday. Its significantly faster. Only had one missed stoploss. I had increased the distance between trigger and placement but these were being hit consistently at the better odds so i guess thats a win.
Its not all good news though. Fairbot is buggy as hell using it. The trades went well but other stuff is totally broken. With the old api as soon as a race is 'closed' the watch window updates. With the streaming api ists hours or sometimes never. You can navigatge to a closed race from the wndow and it will update but as soon as you look at another race its gone again. Closed races dont always say the winners or ltp either. Its a proper mess
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@john-folan Have fun!
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@john-folan Have a great holiday!
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@john-folan YES enjoy it!!
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@John-Folan Enjoy mate, well earned after all this effort
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@john-folan have a good one mate well deserved!
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@john-folan enjoy your holiday mate
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Right today's. I'm off to Greece later, if I can be arsed I might do the selections daily while sitting by the pool drinking a Strawberry Daquri. But don't hold your breath
. The filters are all on the megathread anyway 
Classic Trobs: Dob, Trob or Win if odds are between 3.5-9
NONEFlat Pace. Back to Win or Place if Win Price is between 2.0-25.0. 4-14 Runners only. Avoid Soft, Heavy and Firm Going.
Slow Horses. Dob any over 6.0. Multiple selections per race are what makes this profitable. Just think Pokemon.
I'm also watching these to see how they perform. They are a variation on my Classic Trobs with less filters.
Trob or Win(Not worth Dobbing) any between 2.0-20.0 Near the Off
Read the first post on both threads.
Horse Trading Resources
https://forum.betfairtradingcommunity.com/topic/1111/john-s-horse-trading-resourcesBfBotmanager
https://forum.betfairtradingcommunity.com/topic/2915/bfbotmanager-automation-discussion -
@paul-foster said in The BTC Horse Racing Thread:
@jonathan-jones just bear in mind that sim modes will tend to match more bets, at better odds, than live mode every seams to.
I tend to use live mode, but with really small stakes rather than sim modes.
This isnt matching at all (and thats in sim mode) so god knows what it would be like with real money. It will give me an easy comparison of the api though.
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@paul-foster same
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@jonathan-jones when I've done L2B in the past l've never used auto its too risky you have to manually trade using geeks toy
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@jonathan-jones just bear in mind that sim modes will tend to match more bets, at better odds, than live mode every seams to.
I tend to use live mode, but with really small stakes rather than sim modes.
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@darryll said in The BTC Horse Racing Thread:
@jonathan-jones I'm interested to hear your findings so please do report back.
Sure, I have a strat that i am testing on sim mode at the moment. It uses a stoploss that would normally activate inrunning. I give it 10 ticks between trigger and placement (and these are typically odds between 2 and 5 so plenty of liquidity) and its missed at least half a dozen today. Probably more, will know later but the fail rate is so high its going to be pretty easy to tell if the api change makes any difference. If it doesnt help i will bin the strat. Its simple as anything, performs great in the backtester but falls over all the time when i try live because of the stupidly high fail rate on the stop loss.
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@jonathan-jones I'm interested to hear your findings so please do report back.
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@adam said in The BTC Horse Racing Thread:
@john-folan said in The BTC Horse Racing Thread:
I have moaned about the refresh rates. If they had exchange streaming we would be well away.
Are they still using the old BF API?!
That comment got me looking at fairbot. It offers both but the api-ng is default (so the slower one). Might explain why i have been finding anything inrunning a total waste of time. Going to see if stream api is anyh better from tomorrow.
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@john-folan said in The BTC Horse Racing Thread:
I have moaned about the refresh rates. If they had exchange streaming we would be well away.
Are they still using the old BF API?!
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Today's now its no longer the apocalypse.
Classic Trobs: Dob, Trob or Win if odds are between 3.5-9
Flat Pace. Back to Win or Place if Win Price is between 2.0-25.0. 4-14 Runners only. Avoid Soft, Heavy and Firm Going.
Slow Horses. Dob any over 6.0. Multiple selections per race are what makes this profitable. Just think Pokemon.
NONE TODAYI'm also watching these to see how they perform. They are a variation on my Classic Trobs with less filters.
Trob or Win(Not worth Dobbing) any between 2.0-20.0 Near the Off
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@paul-foster It depends on what price range you are placing the bets in when in-play. You can't say, take the Best Back Price. You have to put in a much lower price. The opposite for laying.
