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The BTC Horse Racing Thread

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    Nick Allan
    replied to John Folan on last edited by
    #1901

    @john-folan said in The BTC Horse Racing Thread:

    The short odds lays and beaten favourites are kicking on lovely. New bank highs for both. Stakes starting to look interesting now.

    Probably need the speed ratings or some other stats to build a dobbing strategy for shorter priced horses (2-15 range). They will be here soon enough. @Adam has built a beast with this software.

    Fantastic for laying strategies. Especially liability lays as odd increase which I use for the beaten faves. My strategy is similar to the variation on Martins that Dan posted a week or so ago in this thread.

    I’m over the moon with it.

    Hey john i dont remember seeing a beaten favs strategy on the main page is this one you have john? and would you mind sharing the set up so i can test it? I love the shorts odds lay as it doesnt have big drawdown and is very consistent which is good for when you up the stakes

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  • RyanR Offline
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    Ryan
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    #1902

    @john-folan said in The BTC Horse Racing Thread:

    0_1668523149182_rules_export-laybeatenfav.json

    top man thank you

    Founder of BTC - Pro Trader - Main Sports Tennis and Football

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  • John FolanJ Offline
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    John Folan
    replied to Dan MacKinnon on last edited by
    #1903

    @dan-mackinnon said in The BTC Horse Racing Thread:

    Something that I've really enjoyed looking at is the lay strategies on the software. I think it suits my trading style more having lots of small wins and the occasional big loss, but (hopefully) overall heading in the right direction.

    I had a mess around with Martin's Beaten Favourite. The filter is here 0_1668523149182_rules_export-laybeatenfav.json

    It has a really decent strike rate and when I went through the individual results there were only 251 losing trades from c.2,900

    Using £1 flat stakes this is what I got
    0_1668523222118_Screenshot 2022-11-15 143315 - flat stakes.png

    But after listening to Martin's YouTube Q&A video he mentioned wanting to know your liability. This is something I never really thought about as I see this as a hobby. I then thought what if I changed it to a fixed liability so I went into every trade like it was a placing a bet and I've written off my £14 from a worst-case scenario.

    This is using £14 liability from a £100 bank.
    0_1668523412007_Screenshot 2022-11-15 143423 - fixed liability.png

    The software is really good at running the numbers on a thought experiment like that!

    @Ryan These ones. @Martin I think these need to be added to the megathread.

    Read the first post on both threads.

    Horse Trading Resources
    https://forum.betfairtradingcommunity.com/topic/1111/john-s-horse-trading-resources

    BfBotmanager
    https://forum.betfairtradingcommunity.com/topic/2915/bfbotmanager-automation-discussion

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  • MartinM Offline
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    Martin btc team
    replied to Greg Mitchell on last edited by
    #1904

    @greg-mitchell I’ll tag @Adam

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    Greg Mitchell
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    #1905

    Is there an easy way in the Software to set a minimum number of criteria, rather than the "All, Any or None" options that are there currently.

    So say for example, I have 6 different criteria and I want to pick any selection that meets at least 4 of them?

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  • John FolanJ Offline
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    John Folan
    replied to Dan MacKinnon on last edited by
    #1906

    @dan-mackinnon said in The BTC Horse Racing Thread:

    @john-folan same for me! Another clean sweep today.

    I've got my Betfair account using a bot with fixed liability which is going great. I wanted an "adventurous" option, so I have been using Beaten Favourites on my Betdaq account with aggressive staking and the results have been crazy.

    Seriously toying with doing a flat stakes version. The p and l is mental. Could be a laugh to just let it go

    Read the first post on both threads.

    Horse Trading Resources
    https://forum.betfairtradingcommunity.com/topic/1111/john-s-horse-trading-resources

    BfBotmanager
    https://forum.betfairtradingcommunity.com/topic/2915/bfbotmanager-automation-discussion

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    Dan MacKinnon
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    #1907

    @john-folan same for me! Another clean sweep today.

    I've got my Betfair account using a bot with fixed liability which is going great. I wanted an "adventurous" option, so I have been using Beaten Favourites on my Betdaq account with aggressive staking and the results have been crazy.

    “Greed moves the goalposts” - Ryan Holiday

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    John Folan
    wrote on last edited by John Folan
    #1908

    The short odds lays and beaten favourites are kicking on lovely. New bank highs for both. Stakes starting to look interesting now.

    Probably need the speed ratings or some other stats to build a dobbing strategy for shorter priced horses (2-15 range). They will be here soon enough. @Adam has built a beast with this software.

    Fantastic for laying strategies. Especially liability lays as odd increase which I use for the beaten faves. My strategy is similar to the variation on Martins that Dan posted a week or so ago in this thread.

    I’m over the moon with it.

    Read the first post on both threads.

    Horse Trading Resources
    https://forum.betfairtradingcommunity.com/topic/1111/john-s-horse-trading-resources

    BfBotmanager
    https://forum.betfairtradingcommunity.com/topic/2915/bfbotmanager-automation-discussion

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    A Former User
    replied to Martin on last edited by
    #1909

    @martin ah okay mate, do you have anything from when you previously run it?

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    Martin btc team
    replied to A Former User on last edited by
    #1910

    @james-ryan not used this one in a long time should probably remove it, could be worth testing though 🙂

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    A Former User
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    #1911

    Hi I’m looking for a ongoing profit and loss tracker for the “timeform trouble” strategy, in the strategy’s section on the dashboard. Would anyone be able to share one with me or point me in the right direction. I’m trying to see how profitable this strategy is ECT

    Thanks

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    John Folan
    wrote on last edited by
    #1912

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    Read the first post on both threads.

    Horse Trading Resources
    https://forum.betfairtradingcommunity.com/topic/1111/john-s-horse-trading-resources

    BfBotmanager
    https://forum.betfairtradingcommunity.com/topic/2915/bfbotmanager-automation-discussion

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    John Folan
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    #1913

    @robert-cooke said in The BTC Horse Racing Thread:

    @john-folan hi John . Is the flat pace strategy still good
    to use? Thanks

    Bit swingy. But if that’s your thing it should be ok. The longest losing run is worth considering though

    Read the first post on both threads.

    Horse Trading Resources
    https://forum.betfairtradingcommunity.com/topic/1111/john-s-horse-trading-resources

    BfBotmanager
    https://forum.betfairtradingcommunity.com/topic/2915/bfbotmanager-automation-discussion

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    A Former User
    replied to John Folan on last edited by
    #1914

    @john-folan hi John . Is the flat pace strategy still good
    to use? Thanks

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    Dan MacKinnon
    wrote on last edited by Dan MacKinnon
    #1915

    Looking at this there are only 4 tomorrow and I know I've excluded Doncaster and Ffos Las from a few of my strategies so expect slim pickings then

    https://www.racingpost.com/racecards/tomorrow

    “Greed moves the goalposts” - Ryan Holiday

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    Adam btc team
    replied to John Folan on last edited by
    #1916

    @john-folan said in The BTC Horse Racing Thread:

    @dan-mackinnon You will appreciate this then 😉 An oldie but a goldie.

    That is classic!

    BTC's Website and Software Man

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  • Rick WatsonR Offline
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    Rick Watson
    replied to John Folan on last edited by
    #1917

    @john-folan top man thanks im glad i never botherd adam

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  • John FolanJ Offline
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    John Folan
    replied to Rick Watson on last edited by
    #1918

    @rick-watson said in The BTC Horse Racing Thread:

    Hi all over the past week or so i have been getting fewer and fewer selections come up on stratergies im following. i also saw a few others mention this and also saw adams comment . now question for the regular / old school horse racing gurus. is this because of the types of races on at the mo and how few they are or shall i bother adam. id rather not bother adam at the mo as looking forward to the back testing on the new footy software being developed. cheers in advance

    There isn’t many meets at the moment. All Weather is on a break(except Dundalk in Ireland running as normal and Wolves this Saturday) until the 27th.

    Will be slim pickings until then.

    I can’t wait for the meltdown at the number of races on Boxing Day though. Busy day that.🤣🤣🤣

    Read the first post on both threads.

    Horse Trading Resources
    https://forum.betfairtradingcommunity.com/topic/1111/john-s-horse-trading-resources

    BfBotmanager
    https://forum.betfairtradingcommunity.com/topic/2915/bfbotmanager-automation-discussion

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    Rick Watson
    replied to Martin on last edited by
    #1919

    @martin i do this is why i put it out there rather than bothering adam. im really looking for someone who knows horse racing seasons as i suspect that the seasons not matching criteria on strats,

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  • MartinM Offline
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    Martin btc team
    replied to Rick Watson on last edited by
    #1920

    @rick-watson do you filter out courses or race types in your strategies?

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