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The BTC Horse Racing Thread

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  • Greg MitchellG Offline
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    #1981

    @john-folan said in The BTC Horse Racing Thread:

    @dan-mackinnon said in The BTC Horse Racing Thread:

    @john-folan oh definitely. Compounding is the way forward.

    It’s amazing. I’ve got a very similar beaten favourites to Martins on the go. It’s got a lower drawdown so Im compounding at 5%. Gone from £10 liability to £70 in a couple of months while I test it. EVERYONE should be compounding. Literally if it takes great. If it doesn’t then you don’t lose much. Plus no massive drawdown through doubling stakes etc.

    Do you compound after every trade, or daily or monthly or something else?

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    @dan-mackinnon said in The BTC Horse Racing Thread:

    @john-folan oh definitely. Compounding is the way forward.

    It’s amazing. I’ve got a very similar beaten favourites to Martins on the go. It’s got a lower drawdown so Im compounding at 5%. Gone from £10 liability to £70 in a couple of months while I test it. EVERYONE should be compounding. Literally if it takes great. If it doesn’t then you don’t lose much. Plus no massive drawdown through doubling stakes etc.

    Read the first post on both threads.

    Horse Trading Resources
    https://forum.betfairtradingcommunity.com/topic/1111/john-s-horse-trading-resources

    BfBotmanager
    https://forum.betfairtradingcommunity.com/topic/2915/bfbotmanager-automation-discussion

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    Dan MacKinnon
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    #1983

    @john-folan oh definitely. Compounding is the way forward.

    “Greed moves the goalposts” - Ryan Holiday

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    Nick Allan
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    #1984

    @greg-mitchell said in The BTC Horse Racing Thread:

    Been playing around with Johns Back the Fav on a Mon, Tue & Sat strategy, here's the results:

    Strike Rate about the same, ROI% doubled.

    Plus its actually profitable if you use it every day of the week.

    0_1668519439034_b2ddcc02-b1d3-4c3b-bebe-923eefe41753-image.png

    0_1668519455925_BACK FAV.json

    nice work greg

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    @dan-mackinnon said in The BTC Horse Racing Thread:

    Something that I've really enjoyed looking at is the lay strategies on the software. I think it suits my trading style more having lots of small wins and the occasional big loss, but (hopefully) overall heading in the right direction.

    I had a mess around with Martin's Beaten Favourite. The filter is here 0_1668523149182_rules_export-laybeatenfav.json

    It has a really decent strike rate and when I went through the individual results there were only 251 losing trades from c.2,900

    Using £1 flat stakes this is what I got
    0_1668523222118_Screenshot 2022-11-15 143315 - flat stakes.png

    But after listening to Martin's YouTube Q&A video he mentioned wanting to know your liability. This is something I never really thought about as I see this as a hobby. I then thought what if I changed it to a fixed liability so I went into every trade like it was a placing a bet and I've written off my £14 from a worst-case scenario.

    This is using £14 liability from a £100 bank.
    0_1668523412007_Screenshot 2022-11-15 143423 - fixed liability.png

    The software is really good at running the numbers on a thought experiment like that!

    Now stick that liability on a compounding and realise that it’s the way forward

    Read the first post on both threads.

    Horse Trading Resources
    https://forum.betfairtradingcommunity.com/topic/1111/john-s-horse-trading-resources

    BfBotmanager
    https://forum.betfairtradingcommunity.com/topic/2915/bfbotmanager-automation-discussion

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  • Greg MitchellG Offline
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    Greg Mitchell
    replied to Greg Mitchell on last edited by
    #1986

    @greg-mitchell said in The BTC Horse Racing Thread:

    Been playing around with Johns Back the Fav on a Mon, Tue & Sat strategy, here's the results:

    Strike Rate about the same, ROI% doubled.

    Plus its actually profitable if you use it every day of the week.

    0_1668519439034_b2ddcc02-b1d3-4c3b-bebe-923eefe41753-image.png

    0_1668519455925_BACK FAV.json

    Just realised that one needs to be careful if the favourite turns out not to be the horse the software selects, have to make sure the actual favourite does not have a pace rating of 0

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    #1987

    Something that I've really enjoyed looking at is the lay strategies on the software. I think it suits my trading style more having lots of small wins and the occasional big loss, but (hopefully) overall heading in the right direction.

    I had a mess around with Martin's Beaten Favourite. The filter is here 0_1668523149182_rules_export-laybeatenfav.json

    It has a really decent strike rate and when I went through the individual results there were only 251 losing trades from c.2,900

    Using £1 flat stakes this is what I got
    0_1668523222118_Screenshot 2022-11-15 143315 - flat stakes.png

    But after listening to Martin's YouTube Q&A video he mentioned wanting to know your liability. This is something I never really thought about as I see this as a hobby. I then thought what if I changed it to a fixed liability so I went into every trade like it was a placing a bet and I've written off my £14 from a worst-case scenario.

    This is using £14 liability from a £100 bank.
    0_1668523412007_Screenshot 2022-11-15 143423 - fixed liability.png

    The software is really good at running the numbers on a thought experiment like that!

    “Greed moves the goalposts” - Ryan Holiday

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  • John FolanJ Offline
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    John Folan
    replied to Greg Mitchell on last edited by
    #1988

    @greg-mitchell said in The BTC Horse Racing Thread:

    Been playing around with Johns Back the Fav on a Mon, Tue & Sat strategy, here's the results:

    Strike Rate about the same, ROI% doubled.

    Plus its actually profitable if you use it every day of the week.

    0_1668519439034_b2ddcc02-b1d3-4c3b-bebe-923eefe41753-image.png

    0_1668519455925_BACK FAV.json

    Sweet. Thanking you

    Read the first post on both threads.

    Horse Trading Resources
    https://forum.betfairtradingcommunity.com/topic/1111/john-s-horse-trading-resources

    BfBotmanager
    https://forum.betfairtradingcommunity.com/topic/2915/bfbotmanager-automation-discussion

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  • MartinM Offline
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    replied to Greg Mitchell on last edited by
    #1989

    @greg-mitchell some amazing work going on here guys! Thanks

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  • Greg MitchellG Offline
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    Greg Mitchell
    wrote on last edited by Greg Mitchell
    #1990

    Been playing around with Johns Back the Fav on a Mon, Tue & Sat strategy, here's the results:

    Strike Rate about the same, ROI% doubled.

    Plus its actually profitable if you use it every day of the week.

    0_1668519439034_b2ddcc02-b1d3-4c3b-bebe-923eefe41753-image.png

    0_1668519455925_BACK FAV.json

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  • Greg MitchellG Offline
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    Greg Mitchell
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    #1991

    @john-folan said in The BTC Horse Racing Thread:

    70% career dob rate
    100% in last 3 races
    Class 4/5 and No AW
    DSLR 8-80
    Runners 5-20
    Odds 8-100

    0_1668422644958_rules_export.json

    0_1668422634627_Capture1.JPG

    Nice One!

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  • John FolanJ Offline
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    John Folan
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    #1992

    70% career dob rate
    100% in last 3 races
    Class 4/5 and No AW
    DSLR 8-80
    Runners 5-20
    Odds 8-100

    0_1668422644958_rules_export.json

    0_1668422634627_Capture1.JPG

    Read the first post on both threads.

    Horse Trading Resources
    https://forum.betfairtradingcommunity.com/topic/1111/john-s-horse-trading-resources

    BfBotmanager
    https://forum.betfairtradingcommunity.com/topic/2915/bfbotmanager-automation-discussion

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  • Greg MitchellG Offline
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    wrote on last edited by
    #1993

    Here you go.

    0_1668422321303_DOB.json

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  • MartinM Offline
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    Martin btc team
    replied to A Former User on last edited by
    #1994

    @razvan-alexandru said in The BTC Horse Racing Thread:

    @greg-mitchell Can you please share the strategy? Or how did you find 80% DOB in the last 10 races? I've been trying to do something similar with 70% but I got some errors and couldn't run it..Thanks!

    Ditto that!

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    #1995

    @greg-mitchell Can you please share the strategy? Or how did you find 80% DOB in the last 10 races? I've been trying to do something similar with 70% but I got some errors and couldn't run it..Thanks!

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    Nick Allan
    replied to Greg Mitchell on last edited by
    #1996

    @greg-mitchell fab, well keep us updated ill be very interested to hear how you get on

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  • Greg MitchellG Offline
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    #1997

    @nick-allan Yes, starting today

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    Nick Allan
    replied to Greg Mitchell on last edited by
    #1998

    @greg-mitchell said in The BTC Horse Racing Thread:

    @john-folan Just messing around myself:

    80% DOB in Last 10 Races
    Course Characteristics - Everything but Sharp and Sharp/Undulating
    Class 3, 4, 5 and 6
    Pace Rating - Everything but 0
    Odds of 3 to 100 at 10 mins before Start Time.

    0_1668418918830_3272631a-a6a8-4ffc-9f08-2ed7d4bb2215-image.png

    Impressive.....are you going to forward test this Greg?

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  • John FolanJ Offline
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    John Folan
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    #1999

    @greg-mitchell said in The BTC Horse Racing Thread:

    @john-folan Just messing around myself:

    80% DOB in Last 10 Races
    Course Characteristics - Everything but Sharp and Sharp/Undulating
    Class 3, 4, 5 and 6
    Pace Rating - Everything but 0
    Odds of 3 to 100 at 10 mins before Start Time.

    0_1668418918830_3272631a-a6a8-4ffc-9f08-2ed7d4bb2215-image.png

    Absolutely cracking!

    Read the first post on both threads.

    Horse Trading Resources
    https://forum.betfairtradingcommunity.com/topic/1111/john-s-horse-trading-resources

    BfBotmanager
    https://forum.betfairtradingcommunity.com/topic/2915/bfbotmanager-automation-discussion

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    Greg Mitchell
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    #2000

    @john-folan Just messing around myself:

    80% DOB in Last 10 Races
    Course Characteristics - Everything but Sharp and Sharp/Undulating
    Class 3, 4, 5 and 6
    Pace Rating - Everything but 0
    Odds of 3 to 100 at 10 mins before Start Time.

    0_1668418918830_3272631a-a6a8-4ffc-9f08-2ed7d4bb2215-image.png

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