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The BTC Horse Racing Thread

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    @david-milligan
    This one "Back The Pace Horse - At Odds 2-25 " in the presets. It was created on the 6th October. Prior to its creation every month was positive, since its creation its only had 2 positive months and still hasnt reached its pre creation peak. Its entirly possible its just a blip but without a compelling reason for the staggering performance difference that chart screams that its back fit.

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    @jonathan-jones the Flat Pace Backs has done OK on forward testing though, do you mean a different strategy?

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    @philip-brogan
    Not overly keen on pushing these things too much in terms of optimization. Its a better than fair chance it will end up too back fitted. Look at the Pace Backs to see the problem. That strategy has bombed since its creation date. The difference in performance after its creation to before is so stark there is no possible way thats just variance.

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    David Milligan
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    @philip-brogan said in The BTC Horse Racing Thread:

    0_1675875336127_rules_export(4).json

    Hi Philip, your adjustment seems to have improved ROI a fair bit but the overall profitability looks to have gone down due to the lower number of selections! Interested to see what the more knowledgeable guys think but I'm going to stick to 3.0.

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    #1345

    0_1675934429309_c3112c63-2002-4789-b9fd-1365ba7706b9-billede.png

    I'm in the process of optimizing my Bet Angel bots and have a quick question.

    Just to be certain... The above means, that starting from 10 minutes before official start time and right up until official start time, that if a selection falls within the odds range it will be backed/layed. Is this correct?

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    0_1675875336127_rules_export(4).json

    Hi Martin,

    I have made another revision to the Back the Favourite Strategy. Can you tell me what you think?

    Many thanks

    Philip Brogan

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    @dan-mackinnon said in The BTC Horse Racing Thread:

    @john-folan haha! I’m forever reminding myself to be patient.

    Whenever I check my results against the software and find one that’s different I turn into the dejected ex “was it me? Did I do something wrong? I can change!”

    This made me laugh 😂 so relatable

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    @jonathan-jones keep us updated!

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    I am experimenting trying ALL the strategies at once. Obviously its automated (god knows how you would manage to do it otherwise). Even automated it would normally be difficult enough on fairbot as you can only allocate a single strategy file to each race. Fortunatly i can code so hacked up a little tool that reads the qualifiers.xls and creates a rule for each of the selected strategies and horses then writes a fairbot strategy file for each race with all the individual rules. Its turning out damn difficult to track results though.

    Only in sim mode this week to see how well it conforms to what 'should' happen. Then i will throw 50 quid at it and let it play @ 1%. Analysis of the results of all the strategies amalgamated suggests it shouldnt blow the account.

    A couple of tips if you are using fairbot automation:
    Use streaming API. I noticed a while back that no matter what you set the APING settings to you would miss a couple of entries a week entirely.
    trigger odds in conditions you need to use LTP (as thats what this software is using).

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    @john-folan haha! I’m forever reminding myself to be patient.

    Whenever I check my results against the software and find one that’s different I turn into the dejected ex “was it me? Did I do something wrong? I can change!”

    Have to remind myself, the software is a guide so and it will average out over the long run.

    “Greed moves the goalposts” - Ryan Holiday

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    These seriously try my patience. Amazing when they are good. Frustrating when they aren’t. Just have to keep telling myself they will lose 37% of the time. But coming up on 10 months of doing them and I’m in front a fair bit. So as I I keep telling the kids. Just be patient 🤣

    I want to have a look at these favourite backs. I’m convinced odds ranges are so important in backing and laying. Got to be sweet spots everywhere for different things.

    Read the first post on both threads.

    Horse Trading Resources
    https://forum.betfairtradingcommunity.com/topic/1111/john-s-horse-trading-resources

    BfBotmanager
    https://forum.betfairtradingcommunity.com/topic/2915/bfbotmanager-automation-discussion

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    @daniel-mills i just checked and the bot is set for 2 ticks higher which makes it 2.44. so it was right. Thanks

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    I've had a 2.52 and 2.42 taken today as well. But I have it set to take SP if unmatched. Do others do that or try to match inplay?

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    @robert-cooke said in The BTC Horse Racing Thread:

    @lee-colvin what odds was the last one mate.

    2.42 matey

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    replied to Fraser cord on last edited by
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    @fraser-cord no mate . All good

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    @robert-cooke Wasn't suggesting you wouldnt be, sorry if it came across otherwise.

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    @daniel-mills yeh to 2.42 . I'll double check when I get home

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    @robert-cooke is your bot set to take a couple of ticks lower/higher so it gets matched?

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    @fraser-cord I'm happy with today's result just curious about the last one. got on at 2.44. I thought 2.42 was the maximum on my bot.

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    @robert-cooke Cant grumble too much can I. I guess its small differences with speed of fairbot vs BFBM etc but as long as the profit keeps coming, I wont be caring.

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