The BTC Horse Racing Thread

[Finn Kristensen]

@john-folan said in The BTC Horse Racing Thread:

To give a bit of perspective on these I've got the following for you. They are obviously better on the flat than the jumps. Sadly we missed a few months of the flat because of the Chinese Flu. Still profitable, just less so. Not sure what is going on with the jumps season this year as they were trying to play it down at one point because of Covid. The points figure mentioned at the bottom relates to the biggest drawdown on each. Not disastrous and gives you an idea of the number of points bank you need to operate.

Interesting overview, John.

As you say, there is a clear division between the flat season and the jumps season. Somewhere between these two seasons (or race types), something changes, i.e. some of the criteria you use for your selections are more important (or "correct", if you will) for flat races than for jumps races.
Do you have enough data to separate the two - maybe some parameters need to be more strict on the jumps races, maybe you're missing one which is very important for that type of race but doesn't matter much in flat races..?

The TROB results for jumps are still in plus every month so obviously there is still an edge even now, but given the pretty significant difference between the two race types/seasons, you'd think there is a potential to improve on the jumps races.

[John Folan]

To give a bit of perspective on these I've got the following for you. They are obviously better on the flat than the jumps. Sadly we missed a few months of the flat because of the Chinese Flu. Still profitable, just less so. Not sure what is going on with the jumps season this year as they were trying to play it down at one point because of Covid. The points figure mentioned at the bottom relates to the biggest drawdown on each. Not disastrous and gives you an idea of the number of points bank you need to operate.

[John Folan]

Frustrating start to the month

[John Folan]

@shaun-harrison said in The BTC Horse Racing Thread:

@john-folan 15:25 at Haydock was brutal!

Yeah not sure how Golden Horde didn't trade lower but there you go.

Here are todays

[A Former User]

@john-folan 15:25 at Haydock was brutal!

[John Folan]

Started brightly then went to utter crap.

[A Former User]

@john-folan Thankyou!

[John Folan]

@shaun-harrison said in The BTC Horse Racing Thread:

@john-folan Hi John, anything to go at today? Your screenshot seems to show only yesterday's selections.

Yep just realised that!! Here's todays.

[A Former User]

@john-folan Hi John, anything to go at today? Your screenshot seems to show only yesterday's selections.

[John Folan]

One point today. Plenty to go at tomorrow

[John Folan]

@john-folan said in The BTC Horse Racing Thread:

@richard-latimer said in The BTC Horse Racing Thread:

@john-folan said in The BTC Horse Racing Thread:

@richard-latimer said in The BTC Horse Racing Thread:

@john-folan said in The BTC Horse Racing Thread:

Another two horses died at Southwell’s jump meeting tonight. Jump racing suspended at Southwell until further notice.

Good. This needs sorting. No animal needs to die for sport.

It's more commonplace than it should be in racing though isn't it? What happened today?

Two died in the first two races. That’s on top of the six that have died since racing resumed. I haven’t watched the races yet as it will probably make me a bit sick. Horrible.

Was it an avoidable occurrence then?

It must be. It’s not happening elsewhere. I’m going to have a dig without watching the races.

Could be the fences. They aren’t fixed they are mobile French style brush.

[John Folan]

@richard-latimer said in The BTC Horse Racing Thread:

@john-folan said in The BTC Horse Racing Thread:

@richard-latimer said in The BTC Horse Racing Thread:

@john-folan said in The BTC Horse Racing Thread:

Another two horses died at Southwell’s jump meeting tonight. Jump racing suspended at Southwell until further notice.

Good. This needs sorting. No animal needs to die for sport.

It's more commonplace than it should be in racing though isn't it? What happened today?

Two died in the first two races. That’s on top of the six that have died since racing resumed. I haven’t watched the races yet as it will probably make me a bit sick. Horrible.

Was it an avoidable occurrence then?

It must be. It’s not happening elsewhere. I’m going to have a dig without watching the races.

[Richard Latimer]

@john-folan said in The BTC Horse Racing Thread:

@richard-latimer said in The BTC Horse Racing Thread:

@john-folan said in The BTC Horse Racing Thread:

Another two horses died at Southwell’s jump meeting tonight. Jump racing suspended at Southwell until further notice.

Good. This needs sorting. No animal needs to die for sport.

It's more commonplace than it should be in racing though isn't it? What happened today?

Two died in the first two races. That’s on top of the six that have died since racing resumed. I haven’t watched the races yet as it will probably make me a bit sick. Horrible.

Was it an avoidable occurrence then?

[John Folan]

@richard-latimer said in The BTC Horse Racing Thread:

@john-folan said in The BTC Horse Racing Thread:

Another two horses died at Southwell’s jump meeting tonight. Jump racing suspended at Southwell until further notice.

Good. This needs sorting. No animal needs to die for sport.

It's more commonplace than it should be in racing though isn't it? What happened today?

Two died in the first two races. That’s on top of the six that have died since racing resumed. I haven’t watched the races yet as it will probably make me a bit sick. Horrible.

[Richard Latimer]

@john-folan said in The BTC Horse Racing Thread:

Another two horses died at Southwell’s jump meeting tonight. Jump racing suspended at Southwell until further notice.

Good. This needs sorting. No animal needs to die for sport.

It's more commonplace than it should be in racing though isn't it? What happened today?

[John Folan]

Another two horses died at Southwell’s jump meeting tonight. Jump racing suspended at Southwell until further notice.

Good. This needs sorting. No animal needs to die for sport.

[John Folan]

They are up. As usual, no heavy ground and 3.5-9 odds range. Make sure you check the going, lot of rain around in various places at the moment.

[John Folan]

Point to the good. Can’t do tomorrow’s yet as the Irish races weren’t available. Will post when they are.

[John Folan]

Tomorrows. Annoyingly today's didn't convert.

[John Folan]

@martin-futter said in The BTC Horse Racing Thread:

@finn-kristensen said in The BTC Horse Racing Thread:

@john-folan said in The BTC Horse Racing Thread:

@martin-futter said in The BTC Horse Racing Thread:

@john-folan could be a good sign getting same selections. i have noticed this on some football filters the good ones often throw up the same games!

Not a bad point. Like a confirmation. I’m still going to look and make sure it’s profitable without the same trades. (Curiosity). But I get your point. They scream trade me if they show up a couple of times.

The idea behind the new one is I’m ignoring dob rate and looking at the average ticks a horse drops in running. Then any with 80 or more I’m applying the 80-120 OR filter and a 10% win rate. The last one is a bit pointless as it’s rare I have to filter any out lower. I’m looking forward to the horse software as from what I’ve seen from the football I’ll be able to apply the filters in the software rather than excel.

Speaking of that - @Martin-Futter When is the horse racing software coming?

@adam-williams is working hard as we speak will get an update tomorrow but it's coming along (so hard to put a date on software development)

Need to crack the whip a bit lol