The BTC Horse Racing Thread
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@shaun-harrison no is the simple answer. I’m on decent stake with these and never have a problem getting matched inrunning. I know I will do at some point but I’m not far off where I will max these out so hopefully it just won’t be an issue. If it does I will just bump the win stake and reduce the trob.
The right odds range means these always stand a chance of winning and as you say there will always be a good degree of liquidity because of that.
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@john-folan Hi John, sorry am somewhat new to in-play horse trading so a quick question if i may! I assume one of the reasons for pursuing the relatively tight odds range within your TROBS strategy is to ensure there that the 33% offset lay bet is placed at an odds level where there is reasonable liquidity. That suggests to me there is probably a stake threshold at which it starts to become problematic for the offset lay bet to get fully matched. In your experience do you have a sense of where this threshold might be? Don't worry i'm not planning to hit the markets with four figures all of a sudden, but just curious as to the scaling potential of this strategy.
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No selections again today. Poor racing indeed.
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@dan-erridge said in The BTC Horse Racing Thread:
Anything today @John-Folan so I can automate before work
Nothing at all today. Seems to happen a fair bit on a tuesday
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Anything today @John-Folan so I can automate before work
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@john-folan said in The BTC Horse Racing Thread:
@dan-erridge said in The BTC Horse Racing Thread:
Any today @John-Folan ?
Just the one. 3.5-9 odds range as usual.
No joy. Point lost.
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@dan-erridge said in The BTC Horse Racing Thread:
Any today @John-Folan ?
Just the one. 3.5-9 odds range as usual.
Read the first post on both threads.
Horse Trading Resources
https://forum.betfairtradingcommunity.com/topic/1111/john-s-horse-trading-resourcesBfBotmanager
https://forum.betfairtradingcommunity.com/topic/2915/bfbotmanager-automation-discussion -
Any today @John-Folan ?
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@finn-kristensen said in The BTC Horse Racing Thread:
@john-folan said in The BTC Horse Racing Thread:
@finn-kristensen said in The BTC Horse Racing Thread:
@john-folan said in The BTC Horse Racing Thread:
@john-folan said in The BTC Horse Racing Thread:
Today's. As usual the 3.5-9 odds apply.
First one trades and converts. Nothing else looks like it will be in range for the rest of the day.
... which means tomorrow will start at 100 points plus.
I’m pretty chuffed with that. I reckon trobs would be about 120-130 points if not for Covid as we lost virtually 3 months racing and the win probably 150 plus. Not bad at all.
When did you start this (i.e., when is the first recorded race in your sheet)?
August 2019. I’ll stick the full sheet up tomorrow
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@john-folan said in The BTC Horse Racing Thread:
@finn-kristensen said in The BTC Horse Racing Thread:
@john-folan said in The BTC Horse Racing Thread:
@john-folan said in The BTC Horse Racing Thread:
Today's. As usual the 3.5-9 odds apply.
First one trades and converts. Nothing else looks like it will be in range for the rest of the day.
... which means tomorrow will start at 100 points plus.
I’m pretty chuffed with that. I reckon trobs would be about 120-130 points if not for Covid as we lost virtually 3 months racing and the win probably 150 plus. Not bad at all.
When did you start this (i.e., when is the first recorded race in your sheet)?
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@finn-kristensen said in The BTC Horse Racing Thread:
@john-folan said in The BTC Horse Racing Thread:
@john-folan said in The BTC Horse Racing Thread:
Today's. As usual the 3.5-9 odds apply.
First one trades and converts. Nothing else looks like it will be in range for the rest of the day.
... which means tomorrow will start at 100 points plus.
I’m pretty chuffed with that. I reckon trobs would be about 120-130 points if not for Covid as we lost virtually 3 months racing and the win probably 150 plus. Not bad at all.
Read the first post on both threads.
Horse Trading Resources
https://forum.betfairtradingcommunity.com/topic/1111/john-s-horse-trading-resourcesBfBotmanager
https://forum.betfairtradingcommunity.com/topic/2915/bfbotmanager-automation-discussion -
@john-folan said in The BTC Horse Racing Thread:
@john-folan said in The BTC Horse Racing Thread:
Today's. As usual the 3.5-9 odds apply.
First one trades and converts. Nothing else looks like it will be in range for the rest of the day.
... which means tomorrow will start at 100 points plus.
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@john-folan said in The BTC Horse Racing Thread:
Today's. As usual the 3.5-9 odds apply.
First one trades and converts. Nothing else looks like it will be in range for the rest of the day.
Read the first post on both threads.
Horse Trading Resources
https://forum.betfairtradingcommunity.com/topic/1111/john-s-horse-trading-resourcesBfBotmanager
https://forum.betfairtradingcommunity.com/topic/2915/bfbotmanager-automation-discussion -
@john-folan Many thanks John, i'm going to give the strategy a trial run in Bet Angel practice mode today.
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Today's. As usual the 3.5-9 odds apply.
Read the first post on both threads.
Horse Trading Resources
https://forum.betfairtradingcommunity.com/topic/1111/john-s-horse-trading-resourcesBfBotmanager
https://forum.betfairtradingcommunity.com/topic/2915/bfbotmanager-automation-discussion -
@martin-futter said in The BTC Horse Racing Thread:
@john-folan just checking, have you requested the stuff you need from that tool for the horse racing software on here? be good to save you a few bob!
Yes matey. You, Adam and Ryan did a nice wishlist thread for it a while back. I'll do a quick check on it to see if there is anything else we might need though. Really looking forward to the new software now
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@john-folan just checking, have you requested the stuff you need from that tool for the horse racing software on here? be good to save you a few bob!
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Hi Shaun and welcome to the forum. Hopefully I’ve answered your questions below. Please let me know if you have anymore.
@shaun-harrison said in The BTC Horse Racing Thread:
@john-folan
Hi John,
This is my first day in BTC so apologies in advance for some of the noddy questions! I've done my best to scour the thread to gather as much knowledge on your TROBS strategy as possible, so hopefully most of this is just reconfirming what i understand to be the case. Firstly, you have a great strategy and to soon hit 100 points in the timeframe you have is no mean feat! (Hopefully i haven't jinxed it by writing that!)Nooooo
A few questions if i may:
- what automation software do you use for this? The automation file you have posted elsewhere seems to be a Bet Angel one but i think read somewhere that you prefer BF Bot Manager
absolutly. Much prefer Bfbot manager although it works fine with the Bet Angel automation. Sadly can’t upload Bfbotmanager automation files to the forum - in terms of automation, presumably it is a case of loading the specific horse and market selections into the Bot each morning, and then it will fire on the selections that meet your 3.5-9 odds criteria from the off?
yes literally that simple - i'm not sure if this is an inappropriate question or not (!) but what staking strategy do you use (e.g. flat stake or % of bank), and is this something that presumably is programmed into the bot also?
Yes I was 1% staking. It can be programmed in. I’ve got to the point where I don’t need to increase on these anymore so I am now flat staking - your results seem to start from Aug 2019 - is this when you started the strategy or just when you began to record the results in this way?
i started then and started recording then as well. Sadly cannot back test - am i right in thinking you use http://www.in-running-trading-tool.co.uk/ to filter for your potential selections?
that is the one. Just working on sheer dob stats with my filters
Many thanks in advance and keep up the sterling work!
Cheers, ShaunRead the first post on both threads.
Horse Trading Resources
https://forum.betfairtradingcommunity.com/topic/1111/john-s-horse-trading-resourcesBfBotmanager
https://forum.betfairtradingcommunity.com/topic/2915/bfbotmanager-automation-discussion - what automation software do you use for this? The automation file you have posted elsewhere seems to be a Bet Angel one but i think read somewhere that you prefer BF Bot Manager
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@john-folan
Hi John,
This is my first day in BTC so apologies in advance for some of the noddy questions! I've done my best to scour the thread to gather as much knowledge on your TROBS strategy as possible, so hopefully most of this is just reconfirming what i understand to be the case. Firstly, you have a great strategy and to soon hit 100 points in the timeframe you have is no mean feat! (Hopefully i haven't jinxed it by writing that!)A few questions if i may:
- what automation software do you use for this? The automation file you have posted elsewhere seems to be a Bet Angel one but i think read somewhere that you prefer BF Bot Manager
- in terms of automation, presumably it is a case of loading the specific horse and market selections into the Bot each morning, and then it will fire on the selections that meet your 3.5-9 odds criteria from the off?
- i'm not sure if this is an inappropriate question or not (!) but what staking strategy do you use (e.g. flat stake or % of bank), and is this something that presumably is programmed into the bot also?
- your results seem to start from Aug 2019 - is this when you started the strategy or just when you began to record the results in this way?
- am i right in thinking you use http://www.in-running-trading-tool.co.uk/ to filter for your potential selections?
Many thanks in advance and keep up the sterling work!
Cheers, Shaun -
@john-folan said in The BTC Horse Racing Thread:
Today's. A big list but a lot will fail on odds.
plus 3 for me. Some might be plus 4 depending on odds. But I'm literally a cats whisker away from the 100
