The BTC Football Trading Thread
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@darri said in The BTC Football Trading Thread:
@richard-latimer still not a fan of the Price is king point? I personally dont understand why you dont think it is, considering almost every pro gets in on a trade depending on price
Quite the opposite. Surely you got that from my statement of strike rate being high because prices are lower.
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@richard-latimer still not a fan of the Price is king point? I personally dont understand why you dont think it is, considering almost every pro gets in on a trade depending on price
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@liam-willis I like that way of doing it, ive got a similar filter which ive just started recording again. Only got 54 results and 51 have had a SH goal but it worked really well previously over 400 results so ive been trying to find a sweet spot of price compared to timing
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@richard-latimer said in The BTC Football Trading Thread:
@liam-willis said in The BTC Football Trading Thread:
@richard-latimer said in The BTC Football Trading Thread:
@liam-willis said in The BTC Football Trading Thread:
@richard-latimer said in The BTC Football Trading Thread:
@liam-willis said in The BTC Football Trading Thread:
@richard-latimer said in The BTC Football Trading Thread:
@gary-brown said in The BTC Football Trading Thread:
I wanna say Gary SHG filter in the members section is worth looking Into guys.
I don’t see many people using it as it’s probably best filter at the moment from what I have found
Has anyone seen Gary Brown and Gary Haigh in the same room together? Just saying haha!
im using it mate with the drip method i mentioned yesterday. its very good.
When do you start dripping? What is min price you will take for first drip?
it currently has an 87% strike rate so you could go as low as 1.2 then 1.4 1.8 2.5 approx. i prefer going in at 50-53 60-63 70-73 and 80-83 this should give you 1.3 1.5 2.0 3.0. not all the time depending on teams and current scores. but genenerally around them 2 sets of prices. if you can get the second set of prices you will get a return of £9.50 on a £10 fully matched stake. 2% commission. so 1 full win nearly gets back a full loss. and with that strike rate at the moment its profitable.
Over how many selections is it 87% though? Are some leagues ruled out? Is this only on certain HT scores?
my own filter which has 86% sh goals has 500 games garys which ive started using along side is only 50 games but early signs are similar results to my own filter which is why i think it will work the same. i did try and work out on my filter all the selections at the 1.2 start price as a worse case scenario as a lot of games take a while to hit the 1.3. it was still very profitable so im happy to take 1.2 as a bare minimum but always try and get 1.3 i wont go below the 1.2 tho.
Does your own filter use betfair odds as well?
no it doesnt tbh it was an early filter i set up and i thought id have a look at it during lockdown i started paper trading it and it seems to be strong. i am making money from it at small stakes and i wlll be increasing stakes on it steadily. it does throw up quite a few games but i do dismiss some leagues i.e lithuania vietnam uls etc
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@liam-willis said in The BTC Football Trading Thread:
@richard-latimer said in The BTC Football Trading Thread:
@liam-willis said in The BTC Football Trading Thread:
@richard-latimer said in The BTC Football Trading Thread:
@liam-willis said in The BTC Football Trading Thread:
@richard-latimer said in The BTC Football Trading Thread:
@gary-brown said in The BTC Football Trading Thread:
I wanna say Gary SHG filter in the members section is worth looking Into guys.
I don’t see many people using it as it’s probably best filter at the moment from what I have found
Has anyone seen Gary Brown and Gary Haigh in the same room together? Just saying haha!
im using it mate with the drip method i mentioned yesterday. its very good.
When do you start dripping? What is min price you will take for first drip?
it currently has an 87% strike rate so you could go as low as 1.2 then 1.4 1.8 2.5 approx. i prefer going in at 50-53 60-63 70-73 and 80-83 this should give you 1.3 1.5 2.0 3.0. not all the time depending on teams and current scores. but genenerally around them 2 sets of prices. if you can get the second set of prices you will get a return of £9.50 on a £10 fully matched stake. 2% commission. so 1 full win nearly gets back a full loss. and with that strike rate at the moment its profitable.
Over how many selections is it 87% though? Are some leagues ruled out? Is this only on certain HT scores?
my own filter which has 86% sh goals has 500 games garys which ive started using along side is only 50 games but early signs are similar results to my own filter which is why i think it will work the same. i did try and work out on my filter all the selections at the 1.2 start price as a worse case scenario as a lot of games take a while to hit the 1.3. it was still very profitable so im happy to take 1.2 as a bare minimum but always try and get 1.3 i wont go below the 1.2 tho.
Does your own filter use betfair odds as well?
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@richard-latimer said in The BTC Football Trading Thread:
@liam-willis said in The BTC Football Trading Thread:
@richard-latimer said in The BTC Football Trading Thread:
@liam-willis said in The BTC Football Trading Thread:
@richard-latimer said in The BTC Football Trading Thread:
@gary-brown said in The BTC Football Trading Thread:
I wanna say Gary SHG filter in the members section is worth looking Into guys.
I don’t see many people using it as it’s probably best filter at the moment from what I have found
Has anyone seen Gary Brown and Gary Haigh in the same room together? Just saying haha!
im using it mate with the drip method i mentioned yesterday. its very good.
When do you start dripping? What is min price you will take for first drip?
it currently has an 87% strike rate so you could go as low as 1.2 then 1.4 1.8 2.5 approx. i prefer going in at 50-53 60-63 70-73 and 80-83 this should give you 1.3 1.5 2.0 3.0. not all the time depending on teams and current scores. but genenerally around them 2 sets of prices. if you can get the second set of prices you will get a return of £9.50 on a £10 fully matched stake. 2% commission. so 1 full win nearly gets back a full loss. and with that strike rate at the moment its profitable.
Over how many selections is it 87% though? Are some leagues ruled out? Is this only on certain HT scores?
my own filter which has 86% sh goals has 500 games garys which ive started using along side is only 50 games but early signs are similar results to my own filter which is why i think it will work the same. i did try and work out on my filter all the selections at the 1.2 start price as a worse case scenario as a lot of games take a while to hit the 1.3. it was still very profitable so im happy to take 1.2 as a bare minimum but always try and get 1.3 i wont go below the 1.2 tho.
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@liam-willis said in The BTC Football Trading Thread:
@richard-latimer said in The BTC Football Trading Thread:
@liam-willis said in The BTC Football Trading Thread:
@richard-latimer said in The BTC Football Trading Thread:
@gary-brown said in The BTC Football Trading Thread:
I wanna say Gary SHG filter in the members section is worth looking Into guys.
I don’t see many people using it as it’s probably best filter at the moment from what I have found
Has anyone seen Gary Brown and Gary Haigh in the same room together? Just saying haha!
im using it mate with the drip method i mentioned yesterday. its very good.
When do you start dripping? What is min price you will take for first drip?
it currently has an 87% strike rate so you could go as low as 1.2 then 1.4 1.8 2.5 approx. i prefer going in at 50-53 60-63 70-73 and 80-83 this should give you 1.3 1.5 2.0 3.0. not all the time depending on teams and current scores. but genenerally around them 2 sets of prices. if you can get the second set of prices you will get a return of £9.50 on a £10 fully matched stake. 2% commission. so 1 full win nearly gets back a full loss. and with that strike rate at the moment its profitable.
@Gary-Brown
Coming back to this, the thing is, the only thing different to things I have tried and failed on is the odds filter. I'm not a fan of moving criteria as 1 minute it can be a qualifier and the next time you look it's not. Plus if the only reason it's getting 87% is down to the fact the odds are higher then we are back on to the PRICE iS KING argument again.
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@gary-brown Friend of mine make arround 1000 a day but his bankroll also is 100000
but in general only 5 procent of all betfair traders make profits in long run -
@liam-willis said in The BTC Football Trading Thread:
@richard-latimer said in The BTC Football Trading Thread:
@liam-willis said in The BTC Football Trading Thread:
@richard-latimer said in The BTC Football Trading Thread:
@gary-brown said in The BTC Football Trading Thread:
I wanna say Gary SHG filter in the members section is worth looking Into guys.
I don’t see many people using it as it’s probably best filter at the moment from what I have found
Has anyone seen Gary Brown and Gary Haigh in the same room together? Just saying haha!
im using it mate with the drip method i mentioned yesterday. its very good.
When do you start dripping? What is min price you will take for first drip?
it currently has an 87% strike rate so you could go as low as 1.2 then 1.4 1.8 2.5 approx. i prefer going in at 50-53 60-63 70-73 and 80-83 this should give you 1.3 1.5 2.0 3.0. not all the time depending on teams and current scores. but genenerally around them 2 sets of prices. if you can get the second set of prices you will get a return of £9.50 on a £10 fully matched stake. 2% commission. so 1 full win nearly gets back a full loss. and with that strike rate at the moment its profitable.
Over how many selections is it 87% though? Are some leagues ruled out? Is this only on certain HT scores?
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@richard-latimer said in The BTC Football Trading Thread:
@liam-willis said in The BTC Football Trading Thread:
@richard-latimer said in The BTC Football Trading Thread:
@gary-brown said in The BTC Football Trading Thread:
I wanna say Gary SHG filter in the members section is worth looking Into guys.
I don’t see many people using it as it’s probably best filter at the moment from what I have found
Has anyone seen Gary Brown and Gary Haigh in the same room together? Just saying haha!
im using it mate with the drip method i mentioned yesterday. its very good.
When do you start dripping? What is min price you will take for first drip?
it currently has an 87% strike rate so you could go as low as 1.2 then 1.4 1.8 2.5 approx. i prefer going in at 50-53 60-63 70-73 and 80-83 this should give you 1.3 1.5 2.0 3.0. not all the time depending on teams and current scores. but genenerally around them 2 sets of prices. if you can get the second set of prices you will get a return of £9.50 on a £10 fully matched stake. 2% commission. so 1 full win nearly gets back a full loss. and with that strike rate at the moment its profitable.
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@johannes-van-leeuwen-0 said in The BTC Football Trading Thread:
@liam-willis NO lilan i back over 2.5 3/5/7/9 and later over 1.5 2/3/4/5 when ht score is 1-0
ok! thats good you have found a method that works for you.
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@liam-willis said in The BTC Football Trading Thread:
@richard-latimer said in The BTC Football Trading Thread:
@gary-brown said in The BTC Football Trading Thread:
I wanna say Gary SHG filter in the members section is worth looking Into guys.
I don’t see many people using it as it’s probably best filter at the moment from what I have found
Has anyone seen Gary Brown and Gary Haigh in the same room together? Just saying haha!
im using it mate with the drip method i mentioned yesterday. its very good.
When do you start dripping? What is min price you will take for first drip?
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@richard-latimer said in The BTC Football Trading Thread:
@gary-brown said in The BTC Football Trading Thread:
I wanna say Gary SHG filter in the members section is worth looking Into guys.
I don’t see many people using it as it’s probably best filter at the moment from what I have found
Has anyone seen Gary Brown and Gary Haigh in the same room together? Just saying haha!
im using it mate with the drip method i mentioned yesterday. its very good.
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@liam-willis NO lilan i back over 2.5 3/5/7/9 and later over 1.5 2/3/4/5 when ht score is 1-0
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@gary-brown said in The BTC Football Trading Thread:
I wanna say Gary SHG filter in the members section is worth looking Into guys.
I don’t see many people using it as it’s probably best filter at the moment from what I have found
Has anyone seen Gary Brown and Gary Haigh in the same room together? Just saying haha!
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@alan-steward said in The BTC Football Trading Thread:
@matt-wood Lol, no mate am green on that one and won't trade that league again lol
I was literally thinking the same thing hahaha
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@johannes-van-leeuwen-0 said in The BTC Football Trading Thread:
@liam-willis but yesterday y told me y dripback from 1.3, ok i do that sometimes with fhg but i start with 1.6 because when 4 parts matched my average odds are arround 2.05 i do like that more vs loosing trades
i was talking about a completely different strategy for a particular filter im using. i tried a similar method you said and it wasnt as profitable as the one im using. a goal past 80 mins gives you almost all your stake back and negates losses along the way. 500 games is showing enough profits for me to be more than happy with. the strategy you mentioned i am paper trading with a different filter and that is showing good results.
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@gary-brown said in The BTC Football Trading Thread:
I wanna say Gary SHG filter in the members section is worth looking Into guys.
I don’t see many people using it as it’s probably best filter at the moment from what I have found
Yeah - I think you mentioned it yesterday and checked it out. Had two matches which both won. Already forgotten about it today (Alzheimer's kicks in early apparently) but definitely should have that on my filters short list.
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They made out James was a pro trader
He was profitable but only around £800 a month.That wouldn’t cover most people’s monthly bills so I can’t see why they say they a pro traders.
In my eyes a pro trader can earn on average around 1500+ a mo th so they can live off it
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@johannes-van-leeuwen-0 said in The BTC Football Trading Thread:
@gary-brown no james is on TOS ttrade on sports and izettt never on lione more maybe broke
Izzet did seem to stake high vs his bank so not impossible that happened. Surprised about James Garner.
