The BTC Horse Racing Thread
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@martin-dodd said in The BTC Horse Racing Thread:
Lay the Field update:
I'm not convinced we are going in the right direction with this (very happy to be proved wrong though!)
The few picks I have made with the criteria haven't been positive and led to an overall loss. Also, taking Australia as an example, if I look at the historical data for 2020 then I have zero events where 3+ runners had £100 traded on them below 2.0So, I'm testing in a different direction.
Using Ryan's "What has to happen?" question then the key thing is that multiple horses have to get below an odds threshold... the number of runners, BSP fav, etc don't matter if one horse disappears up the track. I think there needs to be some in-play consideration to the decision to trade.What I am going to try is looking for races where the IP odds of the 3rd fav get below, say, 3.0 (best value TBD)...then we know we have several horses in the mix and we can lay the field.
To begin with I'm running this with micro stakes on any race (no restriction on BSP, runners, length, etc) to see if any patterns emerge.EDIT: The wrinkle to this is that they don't all have to be under, say 3.0, at the same time for the trade to win....but that needs more thought
How have you been faring with this?
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Nice LTF in Will (Buck) Rogers tonight. 3 matched in the 1945. Laid at 1.81.
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@charles-cartwright said in The BTC Horse Racing Thread:
@paul-keighley said in The BTC Horse Racing Thread:
@charles-cartwright said in The BTC Horse Racing Thread:
Works a treat on BF Bet Manager if anyone is interested in setting that up (see my previous post on my settings at the moment).
Tested it last night on the Aussie racing with no minimum traded volume and it fired the bets in perfectly. Will activate it properly today requiring at least 50K liquidity before the off.
I'd love to give it a go on BFBM if you could help me with the settings please Charles! I had a quick go yesterday but i'm much better at football on BFBM than the horses unfortunately!
No problem at all.
I am attaching the program file to this message.
Had to convert it to a '.doc' file to get it uploaded. Just convert back to '.gz' file before you upload it into BF Bot Manager.
It is all set up to work. This one is set to fire at 1.51 but you can change that in the price settings. All of the usual fields are there to play with...mainly just adjusting the market filters and whatever you want to use for a stake.
Right now I am running 1.51, 1.76 and 1.99 experimentally until I have completed a few hundred trades to see where the sweet spot is. Pretty sure it won't be close to evens but not sure which of the other two might be better.
Let me know if you have any issues with set up.
*Ok so that experiment lasted one day. Realized that I can't have multiple set points on the same market with BFBM. It simply can't cycle through the different scenarios quickly enough to get the trades matched in play with the speed with which the prices change at the business end of horse races.
Have decided to cut down to one set point to start with, which will be the 1.76 entry. This seems like a decent compromise between risk and reward since only 2 trades is enough to generate a profit but not asking for prices to dip as low as 1.5 or so.
I do think that when 'real' racing comes back and there are enough races that a real experiment can be conducted, I will take a look at a lower entry point because there is way more in play action on UK/IRE racing than on any of the Aussie or US races.*
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@dan-erridge hahah. Yeah, I have but forgot to switch them on! Restarted BA before I went to bed and committed the rookie error!
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@keith-dow
Do you save your settings mate? I’ve got mine set to never confirm bets etc,then don’t have to worry about
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Had everything set up overnight. Excited by the new toys of a VPS and Bet Angel. Woke this morning to see that nothing fired. Thought surely something would have met the criteria (I had LTF and the another lay strat I'm testing).
Logged into my server to find a load of BA pop ups.......forgot to turn off the bet confirmation....d'oh. Everyday is a school day.
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@paul-keighley said in The BTC Horse Racing Thread:
@charles-cartwright said in The BTC Horse Racing Thread:
Works a treat on BF Bet Manager if anyone is interested in setting that up (see my previous post on my settings at the moment).
Tested it last night on the Aussie racing with no minimum traded volume and it fired the bets in perfectly. Will activate it properly today requiring at least 50K liquidity before the off.
I'd love to give it a go on BFBM if you could help me with the settings please Charles! I had a quick go yesterday but i'm much better at football on BFBM than the horses unfortunately!
No problem at all.
I am attaching the program file to this message.
Had to convert it to a '.doc' file to get it uploaded. Just convert back to '.gz' file before you upload it into BF Bot Manager.
It is all set up to work. This one is set to fire at 1.51 but you can change that in the price settings. All of the usual fields are there to play with...mainly just adjusting the market filters and whatever you want to use for a stake.
Right now I am running 1.51, 1.76 and 1.99 experimentally until I have completed a few hundred trades to see where the sweet spot is. Pretty sure it won't be close to evens but not sure which of the other two might be better.
Let me know if you have any issues with set up.
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yep. just tampa 8.15. i got 3 more on australian races, one had 3 runners matched. was a good day.
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@claudiu-ion
8.15 tampa got 2 matched mate, running your bot
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You should find it at C:\Users\User1\AppData\Roaming\Bet Angel\Bet Angel Professional\AutomationReports
Just change User1 with your username.
The report is not very good though. i don't know how to export more data. Still learning.
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@claudiu-ion
Hi mate
ive never done the p+l report, thats a great idea, where do i look that up the next day mate?
Dan
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@claudiu-ion said in The BTC Horse Racing Thread:
1_1587315092695_US - Lay The Field.baf
0_1587315092694_AUS - Lay The Field.baf
I have one for Australia and one for US markets.
Perfect. Cheers dude.
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@claudiu-ion
Cheers mate appreciate that
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The only difference between the 2 files are the conditions regarding the race distance.
For AUS I have the distance set in meters and for US is in furlongs. -
1_1587315092695_US - Lay The Field.baf
0_1587315092694_AUS - Lay The Field.baf
I have one for Australia and one for US markets.
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@james-everard
Have got mine set to 1m 1f i think mate atm, thats the max distance, ive noticed in America mind 1m 1f is about as far as they go at say Tampa, so might have to drop to a mile maybe -
@dan-erridge Good start , stick to the rules and hopefully it will continue. I done one the other day not reading the distance properly so wouldn't have met the criteria and it lost!
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1.81 so far mate, on testing, 5 winners one loser, 4 with 2 matched for small profit and 1 with 3 matched for good profit
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@dan-erridge Hi Dan not got What's App to old lol. Thanks for the offer buddy but I know how to set up the automation it is just finding a successful system to make money. It is all about tested different formulas until you get the correct one for pre off racing. I know how to lay the field automatically just didn't realise when I done it before it had to leave the pc on otherwise they don't store lol. What odds are you going in at I have been ltf at 1.66
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@claudiu-ion
Sounds good mate, whats your set up then?
Dan
