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Winning Edge Teams & XP Tracker & Leaderboard

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    How the Challenge Works (And How to Get Involved)

    Right then, here’s how the Winning Edge Challenge works for football members. If you’re new, read this through and comment below with what team you’re in & that’ll get you off to a flying start.

    We’ve broken the challenge into three teams. Each one is based on a specific strategy:

    • First-Half Strikers – focused on finding early goals.
    • Over 1.5 Snipers – looking for solid games with over 1.5 goal potential.
    • Late Goal Assassins – waiting for the perfect moment to back a late goal.

    You’ll have been placed into one of these teams based on your strategy. Don’t worry if you don’t know the others in your team. This isn’t about group work. It’s about trading consistently and getting better.

    Here’s how we track progress:

    We’ve set up something called the Trader Performance Log.

    Every time you complete a key action things like tracking trades, logging results, submitting a review, or spotting something useful like a missed trade I want you to fill in the form. It takes less than a minute.

    Each action earns you XP (experience points).
    More XP = higher rank.
    Your XP also helps your team climb the leaderboard.

    We’ve even added ranks, so you can see how you’re progressing:

    • Recruit
    • Operator
    • Veteran
    • Elite
    • Master
    • Legend (yes, you want this one)

    At the end of each month, we’ll look at who’s top of the leaderboard and which team has earned the most. You’ll be rewarded with status, exclusive content, and some serious bragging rights.

    Here’s what to do now:

    Head to the Trader Performance Log > https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSfeZaJFLqVDLdrd6zN79e21POuQGyR-QJYucuTY8tyLc1l_jQ/viewform?usp=header

    Log your first action.

    Come back here and comment what team you’re in.

    This is designed to help you stay consistent, build confidence, and grow your edge with real data all with no hype, just proper trading.

    Let’s get to work.

    Ryan

    https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSfeZaJFLqVDLdrd6zN79e21POuQGyR-QJYucuTY8tyLc1l_jQ/viewform?usp=header

    Founder of BTC - Pro Trader - Main Sports Tennis and Football

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    @Nikki-HALSALL said in Winning Edge Teams & XP Tracker & Leaderboard:

    This strategy is proving tricky for me, being present to place at 10 mins is not possible as I work full-time so I tried a set and forget at 1.45 to 1.51 odds ish depending on pre-match price but there are a lot of goals scored before 10 mins and a lot that finish 0-0 at half time so..........not quitting but having a cull of leagues.

    I am cutting.....

    Premier League ENG - I know!!!!!
    Mexico Liga Mx
    Netherlands Eerste & Eredivisie

    These 3 leagues are really affecting the overall success rate and although only 350 matches so it could just be variance they are out.

    Turkey Super Lig is close to being cut but will give it more time

    I guess in these situations with a small sample it is good to monitor the cut leagues still just in case it was just a bad run so will do that.

    I see and I read what you say - better listen to Ryan - but I will share my opinion - you can put Set & Forget with Keep option with 25 ticks above staring price - then you get the optimal price at 15 min mark - if you want 10 min mark I can simulate and see how many ticks the market move - easy - work is not an obstical - just mindset - cheers

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    This strategy is proving tricky for me, being present to place at 10 mins is not possible as I work full-time so I tried a set and forget at 1.45 to 1.51 odds ish depending on pre-match price but there are a lot of goals scored before 10 mins and a lot that finish 0-0 at half time so..........not quitting but having a cull of leagues.

    I am cutting.....

    Premier League ENG - I know!!!!!
    Mexico Liga Mx
    Netherlands Eerste & Eredivisie

    These 3 leagues are really affecting the overall success rate and although only 350 matches so it could just be variance they are out.

    Turkey Super Lig is close to being cut but will give it more time

    I guess in these situations with a small sample it is good to monitor the cut leagues still just in case it was just a bad run so will do that.

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    @Ryan said in Winning Edge Teams & XP Tracker & Leaderboard:

    @Patrik-Mellqvist Amazing, you’ve really taken all of this in and ran with it really impressive stuff.

    Ryan - I am grateful for this - it is an eye-opener -

    Ideas where the majority will probably be discarded—but I estimate at least two or three good things will come out of this.
    And you know the expression all good things are three 🙂

    Well, as BTC have this in their arsenal and would not promote a losing journey, and the stats indicate the true value of success.
    So I could just start staking a decent stake and run Set & Forget knowing I will have a success rate.

    But then I would miss out on Ryan's crucial lesson and knowledge.
    Is the journey to develop and understand the market mechanism?
    And from that, see overreactions and other crucial in-play angles.

    After that match with try and error to see what fits into that framework you have with statistical data and side information.
    That is why the comment field and the mental process is never the less as important as the statistical results.
    They go hand in hand with each other.

    Now this journey can also be made with already existing filters.
    Because our personal preferences might see other things others didn't see or have the approach of other trading tools to test and see other opportunities.

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    @Patrik-Mellqvist Amazing, you’ve really taken all of this in and ran with it really impressive stuff.

    Founder of BTC - Pro Trader - Main Sports Tennis and Football

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    New day and new possibilities 🙂

    I start this day by saying thank you to @Ryan for his video about this topic.
    Because I can already see other potential ways to tackle this one and other ones.
    Just like Ryan mentioned in the Video, one thing leads to another thing, and suddenly you have two or three working methods.

    Is too early, I know, but like an FHG - Hunter 🙂 I can feel how I'm getting closer and closer towards my victim 🙂

    So I have the original without trading manually at the 15-minute mark.
    Solve it by using 25 ticks above SP at kick-off.
    Confirmed working with both real placed game and simulation.

    So I have developed an trading angle method that wins FHG and if no goal, break even if SHG.
    Have raw data that 1,57 average odds and a break-even 91 strike ratio.

    And these two exploring journeys lead to a third.
    I will start putting in data for the simulation today.
    BTC and Gary's SHG filter with an above 98,7% strike ratio for one goal during full time.
    So if the trading angle method can be executed in the same way.
    Then I have around 7,7 points difference and should be around an 5% ROI ...

    Happy Hunting 🙂

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    @Patrik-Mellqvist that's looking promising - 299 matches in now - will try to post in the next couple days with a new percentage.

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    Today's Update Sheet ...
    Avg odds 1,57

    9 Win
    4 Loss

    +26,2
    The break-even ratio is around 63,7 with average odds of 1,57.
    So now the future 200 will tell ...
    But @Nikki-HALSALL had around 68 at the 10 min mark and I used 15 min mark - interesting if the strike ratio would drop 5 points - I doubt it 🙂

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    Note that my backup trading method would have won all 13 trades.
    So I will simulate tonight or tomorrow and make a separate parallel spreadsheet.

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    @Patrik-Mellqvist This looks great this does, simple is often the easiest way.

    Founder of BTC - Pro Trader - Main Sports Tennis and Football

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    This is my simple Spreadsheet ...

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    @Alex-Rendell Yep exactly that, that's one of the things that inspired me to do this challenge the feedback I have seen so far is people have spotted different things from the same strategy so while you are all given that one strategy people have tweaked things to fit the way they want to trade and what they have seen.

    It even worked at the BTC level too with me and Adam, we both had the same strategy on one our our bots yet I didn't like the way it was going and I got Adam to turn it off and he carried on with it.

    Founder of BTC - Pro Trader - Main Sports Tennis and Football

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    @Ryan this is a massive point; you always see comments on youtube etc saying "if you're so good at this and so successful, why are you sharing it and giving away your edge?". It's because people don't do things the exact way it was intended to be done, and of the people who do try and do it, only a handful will ride out the variance and the downswings and see it through fully. There is no threat to anyone's edge when sharing a strategy or system simply because of our nature as human beings...

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    @Nick-Terracciano Yeh its tricky though with this as a lot of people get stuck in the rut and dont want to engage because they fear it will whittle away the edge which in reality is the opposite.

    I've seen people share strategies for years and 2 people will never ever trade it the same way.

    Founder of BTC - Pro Trader - Main Sports Tennis and Football

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    @Ryan yeah gotta get out of this rut, got in a comfort zone that doesnt work, been told countless times that the people that do well tend to engage more, its only took 3 years for that to sink in.

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    Today i got three selections and place them before kick-off with 25 ticks above SP
    I know after some simulation that 30 ticks drift at 16/17 min mark.
    After short Question to Ryan i stick to original 15 min mark.

    After 100 real placed i will start making some conclusions.
    Skip the other idea after some simulations.

    Cheers

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    @Nick-Terracciano Rrrr that makes perfect sense, I have never ever thought of it that way before.

    Having somebody to answer too. I like that a lot !! 😄 Cannot let your team down now then!

    Founder of BTC - Pro Trader - Main Sports Tennis and Football

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    @Ryan, not with the trading, just general communication, my reason for doing this challenge is I have no one to answser to which I believe is hindering me in progressing, hope that makes sense. Ive tried doing too much on my own which hasnt worked not for a lack of effort more because Im not focused enough on one stratergy which ends up getting messy.

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    @Nikki-HALSALL That is key, it's about the why to work through that reasoning.

    Founder of BTC - Pro Trader - Main Sports Tennis and Football

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    @Nick-Terracciano How come you are out the comfort zone?

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