Horse Software Questions/Idea Thread
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I think we need this thread to really annoy Adam and Martin. But also to point out things we may or may not have thought of. Plus ideas for new angles/metrics that might be useful in the future.
There are no stupid questions. Just ask.
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@Wayne-Thomas Sorry, I missed this earlier.
The qualifiers includes columns for the strategy rules you've chosen, so as you say, in most cases you can just add the rule and select all the options so it's not actually filtering anything.
Bit more tricky with something like jockey / trainer, but I guess as a workaround for now, you could add a person that hasn't had many races to a rule group with "none" as the match type so you end up with all other races except the few that featured this jockey or trainer.
Try "Miss R Horne" as the jockey and "Mrs J Holden-White" as the trainer. These people only have 1 race each in our database, so filtering them out will leave you with the vast majority of races in the DB and will give you a jockey / trainer column in the qualifiers.
I'll look into making it possible to specify other columns in the qualifiers.
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@Adam Am I right in thinking that it's not possible to customise the columns that output with the upcoming qualifiers. I'd like to be able to include columns that I don't necessarily want to filter on but would like to see in the upcoming qualifiers when I download them from within the software.
I have tried including some rules and then min/maxing them to show all horses but quite often there are 1 or 2 horses missing in races, which are obviously being excluded by some of the rules I have selected. Also, there is no "select all" on the trainer and jockey rules, making it impossible with those, given how many of them there are.
Would it be possible to have columns show in the upcoming qualifiers if you select those rules by do not apply filtering to them?
I hope that makes sense. Reading it back, it is a little wordy!
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@Bryn-Garlinge I had exactly the same thing, worked okay first thing yesterday morning and then nothing all day, now working
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@Bryn-Garlinge Was there anything on screen at all when this was going on? Did the "logging you in" message come up?
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@Bryn-Garlinge
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Morning all,
The stats software isn't loading up for me all day yesterday and again this morning. Everything else seems to be working ok. Me problem? Regards Bryn
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@John-Folan said in Horse Software Questions/Idea Thread:
@Adam am I right in thinking that if I want to trade out at a certain point inrunning regardless of price if I put my time in(say 1 minute). Then put in profit of 100 ticks and a stop loss of 100 ticks. It will trade out on 60 seconds at whatever the profit/loss is whether it’s hit 100 either way or not?
Yes that's exactly what it does. You could just leave out the stop loss, in which case if your target profit is hit before the exit time then happy days, otherwise it will exit at the time you specify.
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@Joshua-Varley said in Horse Software Questions/Idea Thread:
@John-Folan obviously reality and the price in theory can be a little way off, but I think it gives a pretty good indication. I have a stray that trades out at 15 secs after odds and I get a decent match up in data.
Nice one. I don’t get too beaten up on exact matches. As long as it’s close and it’s profitable I am happy. BFBM just needs to be able to replicate the execution the same as the software. If it does that I am happy. You sound like you are of a similar mindset.
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@John-Folan obviously reality and the price in theory can be a little way off, but I think it gives a pretty good indication. I have a stray that trades out at 15 secs after odds and I get a decent match up in data.
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@Joshua-Varley said in Horse Software Questions/Idea Thread:
@John-Folan I do this and seems to work ok
Good. Means I think I can rely on the Dreammaker strategy to give me a fair few points a month. Thanks
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@John-Folan I do this and seems to work ok
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@Adam am I right in thinking that if I want to trade out at a certain point inrunning regardless of price if I put my time in(say 1 minute). Then put in profit of 100 ticks and a stop loss of 100 ticks. It will trade out on 60 seconds at whatever the profit/loss is whether it’s hit 100 either way or not?
If I’m right I’m adding this to my list of sneaky Folan workarounds
Read the first post on both threads.
Horse Trading Resources
https://forum.betfairtradingcommunity.com/topic/1111/john-s-horse-trading-resourcesBfBotmanager
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@Tony-Hastie It's an impact value figure that tells you how much more or less winners each draw position produces, compared to what could be considered its fair share.
A value of 1.25 means there are 25% more winners than you might expect.
So for example if a course hypothetically had 4 stalls, you might expect an even 25% of wins in each stall if there was no bias. If one of the stalls gets more than 25% of the wins, its draw bias figure would be > 1.0.
It's narrowed down based on course, race type, and distance.
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@Tony-Hastie Draw bias: An impact value figure showing a higher likelihood of a horse winning when it runs from a certain stall
Draw bias: Some stalls at some courses (e.g. Chester) have a higher propensity for making winners
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@Adam in relation to the numbers in the software would you be able to explain draw bias to me?
