John’s Horse Trading Resources

Tony Hastie

@John-Folan I have a BA bot I use for scalping a front runner for 20% with a 50% stop loss that seems to go ok at low stakes. Its blown past the stop loss once in the last 20 times. I might start experimenting also with the L2Bs....for the school run races!

With the L2Bs though, If youre watching the race and you see your horse get off to a shocker you can hold off for a bit! I know thats not what the strategy suggests you do but its a no brainer that if your horse is at the back and being whipped its done for the day

John Folan

Cannot argue with these results. Hopefully the summer months replicate last year

John Folan

Three points from the dobs/trobs. Kicking along nicely. Shame as was a whisker away from a trob in the last race today. Really happy with these they are performing exactly as they were before the pandemic.

As for the lay to backs they are just unbelievable if you have the patience for them. Shame I can’t sort the stop loss out for automation but I will nail it if it kills me.

John Folan

@Tony-Hastie said in John’s Horse Trading Resources:

@John-Folan My DOBs are quickly turning into a hobby....something I need to defeat rather than make money out of! L2B is the first strategy I have scaled....it’s flippin awesome. Thanks for pointing me towards it

They really are. I love them and it’s more about getting them right.

No worries. I make loads off it with very little downside. Easier than scalping. Really glad it’s working for you

Tony Hastie

@John-Folan My DOBs are quickly turning into a hobby....something I need to defeat rather than make money out of! L2B is the first strategy I have scaled....its flippin awesome. Thanks for pointing me towards it

John Folan

Minus 3 yesterday. Mad first race and was just shy of dobbing. Never mind

John Folan

@Adam said in John’s Horse Trading Resources:

@Tony-Hastie Respect! I only got into running in the last few years and am fairly comfortable with a half marathon. Ultras still seem like a complete pipedream though!

Look at you too. I’m just happy with my 5 to 10 k runs. My daughter made me feel old yesterday. She ran 10k in under 50 minutes. I average 35 minutes for 5k

Adam

@Tony-Hastie Respect! I only got into running in the last few years and am fairly comfortable with a half marathon. Ultras still seem like a complete pipedream though!

Tony Hastie

@Adam I ran ultras in rain, hail, snow and sometimes even sun. I did it solely for the food

John Folan

1/1 Dob 1/1 Trob. So made back the three points lost yesterday.

Horse drifted out from below 3 to over 4 and still won. Just shows what the market knows sometimes.

John Folan

@Adam said in John’s Horse Trading Resources:

@John-Folan said in John’s Horse Trading Resources:

Yes. When it's raining I find racing to be different. These are definitely affected. Look at it like this, when you were younger you hated running cross country in the rain. Why would it be different for horses?

That's true, even the promise of a full nose-bag at the end of the race didn't work on me...

Adam

@John-Folan said in John’s Horse Trading Resources:

Yes. When it's raining I find racing to be different. These are definitely affected. Look at it like this, when you were younger you hated running cross country in the rain. Why would it be different for horses?

That's true, even the promise of a full nose-bag at the end of the race didn't work on me...

John Folan

@Adam said in John’s Horse Trading Resources:

@John-Folan said in John’s Horse Trading Resources:

3 points lost today. Bloody rain

I know we've talked about this before... are you seeing any correlation between the weather vs the going? In other words, the actual weather being a deciding factor independent of the going?

Yes. When it's raining I find racing to be different. These are definitely affected. Look at it like this, when you were younger you hated running cross country in the rain. Why would it be different for horses?

Adam

@John-Folan said in John’s Horse Trading Resources:

3 points lost today. Bloody rain

I know we've talked about this before... are you seeing any correlation between the weather vs the going? In other words, the actual weather being a deciding factor independent of the going?

John Folan

3 points lost today. Bloody rain

John Folan

@Tony-Hastie said in John’s Horse Trading Resources:

@John-Folan Yeah, doing really well in the races I can get on. The school run and after school clubs put a bit of a damper on things though!

Story of my life that was. I’m very lucky now. They are old enough to not be as much aggro

Tony Hastie

@John-Folan Yeah, doing really well in the races I can get on. The school run and after school clubs put a bit of a damper on things though!

John Folan

@Tony-Hastie said in John’s Horse Trading Resources:

@John-Folan Going back to the L2B for a moment...

Dreammaker suggests he will only enter the market if there is plenty of lay money below the current lay price. How much would you regard as plenty? Ive been looking at about £50 at each of the next 3 prices. Its a starting point I guess. Interested to see your take...

BTW I found the guy who created this strategy in a discord group I lurk in...
He posted it in may 2023. Its much the same as the one in your original post. 2 new rules though...

needs to be 6 runners minimum

must have had at least 4 previous runs

I’m usually looking for about the same. Preferably more. A good sign a horse is expected to fail and people are looking for value and may have already drifted.

Makes sense I usually leave lower runner numbers alone as a matter of course. 4 previous runs is a nice form history to start with as well.

Doing ok with these? Shame they can’t be automated but I just find the stop loss is taken too quickly

Tony Hastie

@John-Folan Going back to the L2B for a moment...

Dreammaker suggests he will only enter the market if there is plenty of lay money below the current lay price. How much would you regard as plenty? Ive been looking at about £50 at each of the next 3 prices. Its a starting point I guess. Interested to see your take...

BTW I found the guy who created this strategy in a discord group I lurk in...
He posted it in may 2023. Its much the same as the one in your original post. 2 new rules though...

needs to be 6 runners minimum
must have had at least 4 previous runs

John Folan

Scratch today. 1/1 dobs 0/1 trobs