John’s Horse Trading Resources
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@Tony-Hastie said in John’s Horse Trading Resources:
@John-Folan Re Dreammaker L2B...Would you do 2 horses in the same race if they fell into your odds range?
No I tend to do one and if I struggle to pick one I just look for the one lining up nearest the back
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@John-Folan Re Dreammaker L2B...Would you do 2 horses in the same race if they fell into your odds range?
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@Martin Started playing around with it about a month ago. I dont test it as such, I add the selections to a shortlist(along with Johns ones now, and some I get from another provider) and then check them out on that providers stats sheet, for recent class, distance and form. If they pass my requirements I trade them...
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The BFBM files
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@Martin said in John’s Horse Trading Resources:
@Tony-Hastie said in John’s Horse Trading Resources:
@John-Folan For what its worth, this is what Ive been working on(by no means finished). I also put the selections through recent class and distance requirements, which I find easier to do manually...
Thanks for sharing this!
When did you start testing it?
2nd November. It’s slower over winter months.
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@Tony-Hastie said in John’s Horse Trading Resources:
@John-Folan For what its worth, this is what Ive been working on(by no means finished). I also put the selections through recent class and distance requirements, which I find easier to do manually...
Thanks for sharing this!
When did you start testing it?
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@Martin I've got bot files for these. I'll sort them out and put them up.
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@John-Folan said in John’s Horse Trading Resources:
@Martin said in John’s Horse Trading Resources:
@John-Folan said in John’s Horse Trading Resources:
@Tony-Hastie These are revised files I got from the software. I took a load of filters out and looked at the odds ranges. Turns out you can dob from a wider range than you can trob.
You are one of a kind @John-Folan thanks for sharing!
My live trading results.
A cheeky two point trob and a one point dob from the only trade today. These do about the same if you back the trob odds range as win only as well
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@Martin said in John’s Horse Trading Resources:
@John-Folan said in John’s Horse Trading Resources:
@Tony-Hastie These are revised files I got from the software. I took a load of filters out and looked at the odds ranges. Turns out you can dob from a wider range than you can trob.
You are one of a kind @John-Folan thanks for sharing!
My live trading results.
Read the first post on both threads.
Horse Trading Resources
https://forum.betfairtradingcommunity.com/topic/1111/john-s-horse-trading-resourcesBfBotmanager
https://forum.betfairtradingcommunity.com/topic/2915/bfbotmanager-automation-discussion -
@John-Folan said in John’s Horse Trading Resources:
@Tony-Hastie These are revised files I got from the software. I took a load of filters out and looked at the odds ranges. Turns out you can dob from a wider range than you can trob.
You are one of a kind @John-Folan thanks for sharing!
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@Tony-Hastie said in John’s Horse Trading Resources:
@John-Folan Just tried it out....went pretty well!
Is there an odds range you aim for? I layed a horse at 20(for £2) and went for 5 ticks and bricked it when i saw it go 1 tick the wrong way
Thankfully it bounced back and nearly did it pre race but made me realise Im gonna need to lay the lower odds selections or Ill get too panicky and trade out prematurely! Im good at that, one of the reasons I like bots...
8-20. You will trade out prematurely. I do it all the time. But I don’t enough to make it very profitable.
Nice dob from 14 today. Won its race as well.
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@John-Folan Just tried it out....went pretty well!
Is there an odds range you aim for? I layed a horse at 20(for £2) and went for 5 ticks and bricked it when i saw it go 1 tick the wrong way
Thankfully it bounced back and nearly did it pre race but made me realise Im gonna need to lay the lower odds selections or Ill get too panicky and trade out prematurely! Im good at that, one of the reasons I like bots...
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@Tony-Hastie said in John’s Horse Trading Resources:
@John-Folan For what its worth, this is what Ive been working on(by no means finished). I also put the selections through recent class and distance requirements, which I find easier to do manually...
Thanks mate. Also have a serious look at the dreammaker strategy. It’s a manual trade but it’s fantastic. I normally choose slower paced horses according to btc instead of the proform rankings. Works a charm as long as you trade out when it goes wonky
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@John-Folan For what its worth, this is what Ive been working on(by no means finished). I also put the selections through recent class and distance requirements, which I find easier to do manually...
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@Tony-Hastie said in John’s Horse Trading Resources:
@John-Folan Thanks John, much appreciated. Be interesting to compare to what Ive come up with. Interestingly I never thought to separate the 2! Seems so obvious that would be beneficial now youve said it!
It never occurred to me until I started looking. Results have been ok on the live test. Both hitting the strike rate and return on the software.
I’m testing another couple of methods as well. Will keep the forum updated on those.
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@John-Folan Thanks John, much appreciated. Be interesting to compare to what Ive come up with. Interestingly I never thought to separate the 2! Seems so obvious that would be beneficial now youve said it!
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@Tony-Hastie These are revised files I got from the software. I took a load of filters out and looked at the odds ranges. Turns out you can dob from a wider range than you can trob.
Read the first post on both threads.
Horse Trading Resources
https://forum.betfairtradingcommunity.com/topic/1111/john-s-horse-trading-resourcesBfBotmanager
https://forum.betfairtradingcommunity.com/topic/2915/bfbotmanager-automation-discussion -
@Tony-Hastie said in John’s Horse Trading Resources:
@John-Folan Just wondering if you still adhere to the DOB/TROB/Win rules you've setout in the first post...or (thanks to the software) have you moved on?
This thread is too good to be hiding away way down the list!
I have something ever so slightly different. It’s in forward testing at the moment but it’s doing alright. I’ll try and post it later. Basically less filters and slightly different odds ranges for the dobs and trobs. The key is the career dob rate though and to ignore it before 2023 as Covid was still a factor
Read the first post on both threads.
Horse Trading Resources
https://forum.betfairtradingcommunity.com/topic/1111/john-s-horse-trading-resourcesBfBotmanager
https://forum.betfairtradingcommunity.com/topic/2915/bfbotmanager-automation-discussion -
@John-Folan Just wondering if you still adhere to the DOB/TROB/Win rules you've setout in the first post...or (thanks to the software) have you moved on?
This thread is to good to be hiding away way down the list!
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@Andrew-Gray said in John’s Horse Trading Resources:
Amazing thanks John for all of your efforts and for sharing so much on here.
"It really hasn't been the same since covid. Was brilliant before that."
Does this mean the TROBs strategy even when using the inrunning trading tool website has not been the same since Covid?
Is it still worth bothering with at the moment then or not?
I am happy to have a look at that inrunning trading tool website to get the selections myself if you think it's still worth the effort - not expecting everything on a plate.
If there is anything else I can help you and Adam with drop me a message!
They’ve not gone back to normal at all even from the IRTT data
