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Horse Racing Strategies Megathread

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    replied to David Polkey on last edited by
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    @David-Polkey

    Thats not unexpected. It uses favourite. The software will ALWAYS use the horse thats 3rd favourite at BSP. You are betting on the horse thats 3rd favourite 10 seconds out. The chances of these being the same are no better than 50%. Horses in 2nd, 3rd, 4th bounce around and will swap places several times between 10 seconds before official time and actual race start.

    This will mean you will get different horse and actually get more horse as 3rd place changes. What you are seeing looks perfectly explainable to me which is why i dont run anything with favourite anymore because its not a backtested strategy, its just a punt.

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    @John-Folan

    Just checked what the software says for Lay 3rd Fav against my BFBM bets for Carlisle yesterday.

    The software is saying the trades should have been

    14:05 Chief Craftsman
    16:20 Detective
    16:55 The Caltonian

    My Bot placed trades on

    14:05 Owens Lad
    16:20 Red Mirage
    16:55 The Caltonian

    As well as

    14:40 Suicide Blonde
    15:15 Happier

    I'm just going to pause this until I can figure out whats wrong. I'm going to start by deleting strategies from the Bot and the software and then reload them from the forum.

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    replied to Dan MacKinnon on last edited by
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    @Dan-MacKinnon Yes Lay Beaten Fav

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    Dan MacKinnon
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    @Greg-Mitchell said in Horse Racing Strategies Megathread:

    @Martin There is deffo something weird going on with LBF. I am on holiday at the moment so have just been letting the software URL and bot do their thing. Just checked and not had a bet placed since the 21st Aug, even though the software shows 10.

    It appeared to be running all fine up until then. Will look into it when I’m back next week, but cant see anything obvious as to why bets aren’t getting placed.

    Is that for Lay the Beaten Favourite?

    I've left mine running but made a point not to check. I'm now wondering if I need to break my rule and check myself. Has anyone else had any issues?

    “Greed moves the goalposts” - Ryan Holiday

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    @Martin There is deffo something weird going on with LBF. I am on holiday at the moment so have just been letting the software URL and bot do their thing. Just checked and not had a bet placed since the 21st Aug, even though the software shows 10.

    It appeared to be running all fine up until then. Will look into it when I’m back next week, but cant see anything obvious as to why bets aren’t getting placed.

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    @Martin said in Horse Racing Strategies Megathread:

    @David-Polkey
    @John-Folan anything in settings not on the bot that I may have different? like refresh rates etc?

    Could be refresh rates. Seems quite different though

    Read the first post on both threads.

    Horse Trading Resources
    https://forum.betfairtradingcommunity.com/topic/1111/john-s-horse-trading-resources

    BfBotmanager
    https://forum.betfairtradingcommunity.com/topic/2915/bfbotmanager-automation-discussion

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    replied to David Polkey on last edited by
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    @David-Polkey I had Chief Craftsman for lay the 3rd fav on the 14:05 Carlisle

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    @David-Polkey
    @John-Folan anything in settings not on the bot that I may have different? like refresh rates etc?

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    @Martin

    Strategy and BOT are downloaded from here and selections loaded from URL - so I'm not quite sure why we have different selections if I'm honest. Been busy with work and getting ready for my holiday so havent really had chance to delve very deep into whats happening, but I intend to over the next couple of days,

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    replied to alexander hughes on last edited by
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    @alexander-hughes Thanks for the offer but I'm afraid not. I was using my free trial on bot manager, which expired today. Mustering my strength to cough up for it but the trial hasn't exactly filled me with confidence

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    Martin btc team
    replied to David Polkey on last edited by
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    @David-Polkey you using ones in op? I had Aighear for that one

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    @Martin

    My BFBM Strategies have managed to place bets on Owens Lad (14.05 Carlisle) both for the Bet The Fav at the Off and Lay 3rd Fav. There were 5 secs difference between the bets being placed. Swings and roundabouts I suppose as by SP Owens Lad ended up 2nd Fav

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    alexander hughes
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    @Jonathan-West Any chance you can download 3rd fav to a spreadsheet ?

    I can then run a join in power query to look for mismatches.

    I suspect your bot is using the horse from the software rather than the race and letting the live 3rd fav be picked by your automation software though.

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    Joseph Henderson
    replied to Martin on last edited by
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    @Martin four trades, three losses, one win

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    Alexander Vincent
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    @Martin Amazing thanks, might pause this one for now then

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    Martin btc team
    replied to Joseph Henderson on last edited by
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    @Joseph-Henderson only one for me yesterday and it lost, how did the four do?

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    How are people finding the Irish DOB bot is working? There appears to have been 4 trades recorded on the software yesterday but my bot didn’t place any. Probably need to review my bot

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    Martin btc team
    replied to A Former User on last edited by Martin
    #278

    @Jonathan-West yeah back to lay dobs needs forward testing as only created end of July so expect some ups and downs, Irish dobs seems the better one at present they share a lot of same dna

    your lay 3rd fav doesn't seem to be getting the right selections

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    @Martin If it's at a!l helpful, here are screen shots of my back to lay dobs results:

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    And lay 3rd fav:

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    Like I say, these two bots were from the thread, with the selections imported via the URL. I've paused these two now but would like reinstate if anyone can help clarify any issues. cheers

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    Martin btc team
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    @Alexander-Vincent it's the third fav changing rule that is the issue, @Adam is working on adding this in currently it won't be long before it does.

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