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John Folan

Keith Driscoll has pointed out that if you reduce the odds range on the ZPL's to 10 you get a much smoother ride. Yes you lose profit, but he is right and I think I prefer this.

On a side note, I love the new topic option in the forum. Tidier.

Sean

@Keith-Driscoll Ahh no worries, I will remember that when making Lay strategies. Thank you!

Dan MacKinnon

@Jonathan-Jones Got you. Yeah it does take a pretty big dive. Same thing with LTBF, a really bad month puts things back drastically

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@Dan-MacKinnon said in ZPL's:

The version with the odds limit reduced to 10. Sure there are no BIG ups and downs but you hit a high in Feb 22, then take a reasonable hit and although it just bimbles up and down you dont get back to that Feb high till some point in October. You would need to have some faith to follow that all the way through.

Dan MacKinnon

@Jonathan-Jones said in ZPL's:

Ouch. Thats one hell of a strategy to actually follow in real life. Thats pretty much an 8 month drawdown using the 10 odds

What do you mean? The strategy seems pretty stable with the backtesting?

Keith Driscoll

@Sean said in ZPL's:

@John-Folan @Keith-Driscoll What were you looking at in the data to come to this decision? I've had a look at both versions, but nothing is jumping out at me other than the profit difference, no matter which breakdown I choose to sort the data by. So it would be really helpful to try and understand your thought process. Thank you.

I've been laying for over 20 years, and the value cut-off price for any lay system has always worked out at 10.0-11.0, regardless of the strategy used. The more you go above 11.0, the more your bank will bounce around, and the less value you get compared to those under 11.0.

Betting is about value, you want the most you can get.

Sean

@John-Folan @Keith-Driscoll What were you looking at in the data to come to this decision? I've had a look at both versions, but nothing is jumping out at me other than the profit difference, no matter which breakdown I choose to sort the data by. So it would be really helpful to try and understand your thought process. Thank you.

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Ouch. Thats one hell of a strategy to actually follow in real life. Thats pretty much an 8 month drawdown using the 10 odds

Keith Driscoll

@John-Folan said in ZPL's:

Re: The Forward Testing Thread

Keith Driscoll has pointed out that if you reduce the odds range on the ZPL's to 10 you get a much smoother ride. Yes you lose profit, but he is right and I think I prefer this.

On a side note, I love the new topic option in the forum. Tidier.

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Dan MacKinnon

@Martin said in ZPL's:

@Dan-MacKinnon said in ZPL's:

@Martin yeah sounds good. I’ll send you my version too.

It’s only temporary because I want to revisit all my strategies after the favourite update

rules_export (1).json

rules_export.json
This is my version

Martin

@Dan-MacKinnon said in ZPL's:

@Martin yeah sounds good. I’ll send you my version too.

It’s only temporary because I want to revisit all my strategies after the favourite update

rules_export (1).json

Dan MacKinnon

@John-Folan no problem mate. I’m out all day too. Shame the weathers not on board though!

Dan MacKinnon

@Martin yeah sounds good. I’ll send you my version too.

It’s only temporary because I want to revisit all my strategies after the favourite update

Martin

@Dan-MacKinnon do you want the version I'm using at the moment? It's same odds but much more stable (well so far)

John Folan

@Dan-MacKinnon said in ZPL's:

I’ve reduced my liability on LTBF. I think anyone who traded during “The Bloodbath of May” (as Karl put it) has probably done the same.

@John-Folan has this changed the forward testing post?

I think it’s wise too. I’ll change the bot and the software file tomorrow. Out all day today.

Dan MacKinnon

I’ve reduced my liability on LTBF. I think anyone who traded during “The Bloodbath of May” (as Karl put it) has probably done the same.

@John-Folan has this changed the forward testing post?

John Folan

@Martin Agreed. I've just revamped my version of LTBF. gone 3-12. I was laying lower and higher to a liability, but it's slow progress. This gives me a greater return and a lot more control over losses.

Martin

@John-Folan I took that approach with LTBF it's all about minimising variance for me, especially the higher you go as a trader.