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The BTC Horse Racing Thread

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    Noticed some discrepancies in my dobs results this week. ~4pts down instead of 4pts up.

    Road testing without the safety hedge I set up in BFBM to see if that puts it in the right direction this week. Software doesn't seem to think it makes too much difference, need to see how that translates live.

    Anyone using the back to lay 2.0 checked theirs yet?

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    @David-Polkey

    is this lapsed entry or exit?

    This will be an issue with any DOB or trading type strategies that use an exit. The software uses LTP for its entry. In reality LTP might not still be available.

    The way to handle un-matched entries is to request a few ticks worse than best price. That way you are pretty sure to get matched. Problem is if your entry isnt what the backtest thinks it should be then you cant be sure your exit even got hit let alone fully matched. So, you will end up with un-matched exits and the software tells you that you won that bet.

    You cant model this scenario but you can get an idea of what the worst case for your strategy might be. You can add the IR Low field (and of course the enrty/exit price) to the individual trades output. Then in excel you can easily remove any winners that dont go more than x ticks lower than the exit. Its not a perfect solution but it will tell you if your strategy is actually profitable assuming worse case of bets not matching.

    Note:
    Wont help if using big stakes and possible low liquidity.

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    @Martin

    I found I had quite a few 'lapsed' lay bets on the Irish DOBS Bot yesterday - which would have made quite a difference to the P&L. Did you see the same?

    Dave P

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    @Martin yeah definitely. I think it's more knowing that I can't change things so there's no point constantly checking. I'm in it for the long haul not hour by hour movements

    “Greed moves the goalposts” - Ryan Holiday

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    @Dan-MacKinnon as long as it doesn't change anything I don't see anything wrong in checking results but I do get the temptation!

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    @Martin said in The BTC Horse Racing Thread:

    Had first losing day since using automation yesterday on the horses, much easier to take isn't it you don't let emotion get involved at all.

    Onto Cincinnati!

    You will have plenty more. 😂😂 Got kicked on the lbtf yesterday. Not that I knew anything about it. Went to see Barbie in the morning(Margot Robbie ❤) and Oppenheimer in the afternoon(Emily Blunt❤). Barbie surprisingly better than I thought. Oppenheimer really intense.

    Read the first post on both threads.

    Horse Trading Resources
    https://forum.betfairtradingcommunity.com/topic/1111/john-s-horse-trading-resources

    BfBotmanager
    https://forum.betfairtradingcommunity.com/topic/2915/bfbotmanager-automation-discussion

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    @Martin yeah I find it a lot easier to deal with bad days. My only trouble is I told myself I won’t check the results until the weekend, and then I’m checking it all the time.

    I think I need to ban myself and check it once and that’s it

    “Greed moves the goalposts” - Ryan Holiday

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    Had first losing day since using automation yesterday on the horses, much easier to take isn't it you don't let emotion get involved at all.

    Onto Cincinnati!

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    @Martin said in The BTC Horse Racing Thread:

    @Correa Lay 3rd Fav.gz

    Thanks!!!

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    @Correa Lay 3rd Fav.gz

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    @Martin said in The BTC Horse Racing Thread:

    @Correa keep an eye on the Irish Dobs and Lay 3rd Fav had a very good first week of forward testing for me so far.

    @Martin Will do. I think I've seen the BFBM bot somewhere in the forum for the Lay 3rd Fav strategy, but I can't find it. Would you mind sharing it again? Thanks!!!

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    @Correa keep an eye on the Irish Dobs and Lay 3rd Fav had a very good first week of forward testing for me so far.

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    After a terrible start, backing the favourite is making a comeback. I'm wondering if the past two days of rain could greatly influence this strategy.

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    @Robert-Tabbenor said in The BTC Horse Racing Thread:

    trawl

    you would need to create the file if it's not here.

    These are the ones I have, give them a look though these aren't strategies I use so they will need checking they work and staking etc looked at. drive-download-20230803T070557Z-001.zip

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    @Martin thanks for that Martin. To save me trawling through all the videos can you tell me which one is relevant to convert the file to gz?

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    @Robert-Tabbenor nice work! Yeah BFBM have a tutorial video playlist here:

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    @Martin Profit today on lay the dobs £20 so a good start! I have just set up Irish dobs so see how that goes tomorrow. I was going to use the lay the fav strategy and got it all set up but cant find the GZ file for that and the other strategies. Is there a specific place for them or a tutorial on how to set up GZ files? Thanks, Rob

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    @Martin ah no problem thanks for the heads up mate

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    @Jordan-Carling maybe it will change tomorrow when ratings update, that strategy hasn't made profit in a year may be one to remove anyway.

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    @Martin I’ve got one for tomorrow on my daily qualifiers with a pace rating of 6 called enderman mate

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