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The BTC Horse Racing Thread

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  • MartinM Offline
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    @Jonathan-Jones yes

    https://www.timeform.com/horse-racing/result/doncaster/2023-07-22/1945/14/4

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    @Karl-Pick

    Thanks,

    Thought that might be the case. Its on my version of pace backs and i got one of them. Accounting for the dead heat everything matches for the weekend.

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    @Jonathan-Jones said in The BTC Horse Racing Thread:

    quick question.
    Was the 19:45 at Doncaster on Saturday a dead heat?
    Been away all weekend, looking at my PL this morning i have about half what the odds suggest i should of got.

    If it was the Gweedore race then YES, its popped up the last few times on my PACE backs, but not this week....SODS LAW!!

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    quick question.
    Was the 19:45 at Doncaster on Saturday a dead heat?
    Been away all weekend, looking at my PL this morning i have about half what the odds suggest i should of got.

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  • MartinM Offline
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    @Adam I get a feeling Smarkets would crush the other two non-Betfair sites with a decent API. Their current userface isn't great though, I like they didn't just copy Betfair but it can be a tad confusing to look at.

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    @Adam The only thing I can see is their swagger docs, no forum as far as I know. I will let you know if they reach out to me again.

    I do remember them having a stupidly low rate limit, I did enquire on how I could get it raised but they weren't too helpful. I thought if they seriously wanted to compete then they would sort that out, probably why the API didn't take off.

    Stay curious, stay relevant, stay humble, keep contributing and above all, be grateful. Peace out!

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  • AdamA Online
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    @Toyin-Butler said in The BTC Horse Racing Thread:

    @Martin I use Matchbook (API) but for small amounts right now. Its liquidity obvs not as good as Betfair but it seems ok. Next month I'm increasing size there so will be interesting to see how that goes. By the way, Smarkets told me they will be offering their API again in the future but would not give me a rough estimate as to when.

    Smarkets always seems to have struggled to offer a decent API solution. I was testing their first attempt back in 2011 which was based on protocol buffers. It wasn't particularly usable. They then gave me access to their "HTTP API" in 2020, but betting was rate-limited to 1 bet per second (including adjustments to existing bets) which again is useless if you're trying to trade multiple markets programatically.

    Do they still have a developer forum? I'll start keeping an eye on it again if they're planning to re-release it!

    BTC's Website and Software Man

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  • MartinM Offline
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    @Toyin-Butler never handy if they aren't accepting bets is it!

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    @Martin Not sure, but they had been on my case last year asking me how the integration was going. At that time I had paused work on the project, but when I went to use their service I discovered it wasn't accepting bets. I still get all the other services like account info and prices though.

    Stay curious, stay relevant, stay humble, keep contributing and above all, be grateful. Peace out!

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  • MartinM Offline
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    @Toyin-Butler wonder why they hold the API back?

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    @Martin I use Matchbook (API) but for small amounts right now. Its liquidity obvs not as good as Betfair but it seems ok. Next month I'm increasing size there so will be interesting to see how that goes. By the way, Smarkets told me they will be offering their API again in the future but would not give me a rough estimate as to when.

    Stay curious, stay relevant, stay humble, keep contributing and above all, be grateful. Peace out!

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    @Martin said in The BTC Horse Racing Thread:

    Asked this on footy yesterday but what other exhange is good for using for Horse Racing? From what I can tell Smarkets and Matchbook may be the best options. APIwise looks like Matchbook may be the option. Betdaq doesn't seem to have much liquidity in horses or football from what I can tell.

    Betdaq is good in the last 10mins before racing. prices very similar to Betfair and I can get enough on. Still use Betfair as first go to, but Betdaq is my back up.

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  • MartinM Offline
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    Asked this on footy yesterday but what other exhange is good for using for Horse Racing? From what I can tell Smarkets and Matchbook may be the best options. APIwise looks like Matchbook may be the option. Betdaq doesn't seem to have much liquidity in horses or football from what I can tell.

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  • MartinM Offline
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    @Greg-Mitchell doing God's work!

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    @Jonathan-Jones said in The BTC Horse Racing Thread:

    @John-Folan
    Its the same issue as i had on just lay. I thought that was down to sim mode as everything was fine the day after but according to Adam its taking bets on horses that are not even selections and its a totally different strategy. I use the selection import via the tipster servide and i do provide min and max odds as part of that. I had left in the original selection criteria but i have removed it today so its only using the tipster service.
    lbf.gz
    Lay Beaten Favourite.json

    Just thought I'd let you know, have imported both the strategy and the bot for this and uploaded tips to BFBM via URL, so all automatic. Then tested it and was 100% match between BFBM and Software for the 18th and 19th July.

    14 Selections in the Software, 14 Bets on BFBM

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    @Martin said in The BTC Horse Racing Thread:

    What's people's thoughts on BFBM customer service?

    Their forum is excellent. If you go to them with a problem they always answer. Normally with a solution that has you calling yourself an idiot because you missed something.

    Also if you suggest an addition they think has value then they will add it.

    I find them much more approachable than Bet Angel.

    Read the first post on both threads.

    Horse Trading Resources
    https://forum.betfairtradingcommunity.com/topic/1111/john-s-horse-trading-resources

    BfBotmanager
    https://forum.betfairtradingcommunity.com/topic/2915/bfbotmanager-automation-discussion

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  • MartinM Offline
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    What's people's thoughts on BFBM customer service?

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  • AdamA Online
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    @Jonathan-Jones After the changes I made first thing this morning, 2 sets of results plus upcoming races for tomorrow went straight in with no issues, then yesterday's results were in by about 08:30am today I think. So fingers crossed this will have resolved it! I will keep an eye on it.

    BTC's Website and Software Man

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    replied to Adam on last edited by
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    @Adam

    Thanks,
    Thats good to know. In general its not an issue because i know it will eventually be there. Just bad timing for me at the moment as i am still trying to get my BFBM bots executing consistently.

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    @Adam Thanks for the update mate!

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