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The BTC Horse Racing Thread

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    Joshua Varley
    replied to A Former User on last edited by
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    @Jonathan-Jones No nothing appearing for me either yet - to be honest, I don't recall it ever taking this long. Wonder if it will appear with tomorrow's data?

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    @Joshua-Varley

    Doesnt seem to be happening today.

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    Joshua Varley
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    @Jonathan-Jones Yep, check back, they will be there eventually.

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    @Joshua-Varley

    My missing ones are late races by the looks of things

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    Joshua Varley
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    @Jonathan-Jones Not matching today (yet) as the data for the races after about 4.30/5pm yesterday doesn't seem to have been pulled through yet. It's the same for all 8 strategies I have run. I have seen it enough to know that at some point today it will pull through and all the data will more or less match what BFBM did yesterday.

    Generally speaking, I check every day, and other than the odd selection here and there (usually on the extremes of the odds ranges), all 8 strategies are generally bang on. All 8 strategies are placing 80-100 bets a day combined, so I consider this to be well within a tolerable range.

    For what it's worth, I'm still loading all selections into BFBM via a csv file, as I like to check the previous day as I load the selections for the current day. Therefore I can only speak for that method, but, touch wood, I never have any problems with BFBM placing unwanted bets.

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    @Joshua-Varley
    So you also have issues with things matching today?
    My problem is i havent had a single day thats been remotely close since starting with BFBM last week so for me the issue could be anything.

    First few days was in sim mode and the problem was BFBM sim mode actually places bets at prices that never even existed so thought that was the cause.
    Then moved to live, not much better so tried using odds on import. That resulted in less bets than i should have as it uses the default and not LTP condition, Now have dozens more bets than the software says again.

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    Joshua Varley
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    @Jonathan-Jones It was like this on Sunday too- it will be there, no doubt about it. All of my strategies are the same this morning and were on Sunday too. Might be something to do with the deadlocks etc Adam mentioned in his weekly update.

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    replied to Joshua Varley on last edited by
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    @Joshua-Varley

    Would of thought should all be in by 10:30. Is odd how a strategy thats more of a shotgun than a sniper has the grand total of 2 trades all day though, first time ever probably.

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    Joshua Varley
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    @Jonathan-Jones I don't think all the data for yesterday has pulled through yet. Check again in an hour or two and I daresay it will be a very different story.

    It happens sometimes where only the first races are in the results at about this time of the morning.

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    Honestly i think i am done with this now. Another day, another totally different result in live over every single strategy. This time i used the BFBM url here for the strats that dont have ranking but the difference is still just as massive.

    Using the Just Lay strat as an example because its just stupid simple. This is what actually happened:
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    This is what the software says happened:
    18/07/2023 16:35:00 0.1 -5.60 -0.56 Lingfield Girl Magic JustLay
    18/07/2023 16:35:00 0.1 1 0.1 Lingfield Clipsham La Habana JustLay

    Apparently just 2 bets on one race (which i find pretty hard to beleive to be honest).

    These are the files.
    Just Lay.gz
    Just Lay.json

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    Martin btc team
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    Planning a clean up of this thread tomorrow or onwards: https://forum.betfairtradingcommunity.com/topic/3531/horse-racing-strategies-megathread

    If you want any of the strategies download them today

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    replied to John Folan on last edited by
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    @John-Folan

    I tried @Daniel-Mills suggestion which fixed it. Odd how they were bets scattered all over the place though.

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    John Folan
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    @Jonathan-Jones this only reared its head yesterday. They are aware of it and are working on a fix. In the meantime on your bets page there is settle as a win and settle as a loss as column options. Include those and just manually mark them by clicking the appropriate one.

    Read the first post on both threads.

    Horse Trading Resources
    https://forum.betfairtradingcommunity.com/topic/1111/john-s-horse-trading-resources

    BfBotmanager
    https://forum.betfairtradingcommunity.com/topic/2915/bfbotmanager-automation-discussion

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    A Former User
    replied to Dan MacKinnon on last edited by
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    @Dan-MacKinnon
    The overal PL field is editable. Click in it and change it

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    Dan MacKinnon
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    @Daniel-Mills is there a way to reset the P&L of each strategy? I've duplicated strategies but it keeps the P&L despite no bets being placed

    “Greed moves the goalposts” - Ryan Holiday

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    @Daniel-Mills

    Thats fixed it thanks. Only been using BFBM for a couple of weeks and not seen that problem before.

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    @Jonathan-Jones

    any resolution when you go to history on the top bar and 'update bets'?

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    Dan MacKinnon
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    @Jonathan-Jones I've got the same thing. It says matched but not settled, however, when I go to my actual account it is settled and won. It makes the strategy seem like it's performing worse than it is

    “Greed moves the goalposts” - Ryan Holiday

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    Seeing a bug on BFBM. Anyone else get this and how frequently?

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    This is this morning. 3 bets stuck at matched. The bets are settled and lost. This has obviously messed up the stats.

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    Actually its happened across all the strats, about 30% of the bets are not settled. Plus, i now have issues of bets not being taken. The backtest says bets were taken, the selection is in the tipsters window with the correct provider and odds but BFBM simply didnt bother. Think i want to change my vote. BFBM is starting to look like one massive steaming pile of crap.

    #Edit - Edit#

    My missing trades are all on the boundry (so 6.8 and 7 ltp). It seems that when you use the import for min max prices it looks like it uses the default so both back and lay needs to be within the range (if you use the selection criteria rule you can select how you want it to handle the comparison). This is probably OK for low ot high odds but for stuff bouncing in the middle you might miss a lot of trades on the margins.

    Learning every day.

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    Martin btc team
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    @Toyin-Butler spot on! I've just started to try and learn coding and my God is it confusing! What @Adam has built from scratch is unreal.

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