The BTC Horse Racing Thread
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On the Lay 1st & 2nd filter, just in the initial phases of forward testing. What happens if 1 selection is within the odds range but the other isn't. For example, Fav is at 2 and the 2nd Fav is at 4. Would you lay the 1 selection or would you leave that race alone as you need to lay both the Fav and 2nd Fav for the strat to profit long term?
Thanks
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@Jonathan-Jones I'd use the sections filter (selections conditions>selections filter) to do this... Also, for what it's worth, I have 5 starts running, with about 40ish bets yesterday, and every single one is in the software as it should be. So I'm not sure there is any data missing.
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A question for @John-Folan (or anyone else who is good with BFBM).
I am using the tipping service method of getting my selections into BFBM but dont know how to set the criteria so it only bets if that imported selection is 1st,2nd,3rd,4th favourite.
I have this currently set up but not sure if its correct:
The strategy is set to look at the correct provider and that is working but i seem to of had a few more bets yesterday than the software. In fact i had a lkot more bets accross the board than the software so i think we may have the missing data issue again but since i wasnt sure about this setup anyway its not helped.
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@Adam
Do we have missing data fromyesterday? I have a shed load of bets taken in reality (by both my live Fairbot strats and my BFBM test) that are not in the software. Some of these are not complicated ones either. If its between price a and price b place the bet sort of simple. -
@Jonathan-Jones looking forward to hearing how you get on
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Going to be an interesting day today. First day of testing a 100% hands off automation workflow with BFBM (sim mode obviously). Surprisingly didnt take me long to create the strategies so i am sure there will be a million bugs to work through in the morning. Really wasnt sure about how tipster selections and favourite positions 1 to 3 etc work so only way it to try and and see what it does.
If it works then it should make my results much more consistent with the backtest results in terms of non runners for sure (and more profitable since that little problem is killing me at the moment). Then my last consistency bugbear is the favourites swapping in the last few seconds.
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Well, its running and so far all strategies appear to be actually doing stuff. Bets are being placed on selections at least. Will see in the morning if they are the right bets though.
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@David-Hodgson
Try this:
Handicap and AW
Fave BSP > 3
Placing bets from race start actual to 10 seconds inplay.
Bet type is an offer @ odds of 1.5
rules_export(2).jsonYou get pretty much no trades with those criteria though. By guess is that fav odds over 3 in a handicap is pretty rare.
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@Greg-Mitchell said in The BTC Horse Racing Thread:
@David-Hodgson You couldn't backtest this strategy in the software, because as far as I am aware, it doesn't facilitate "in-play" only betting
He hasn't mentioned in play in his post, but it's definitely possible to restrict your bets to in-play using the entry time slider.
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@David-Hodgson you can certainly filter on all weather (race type), handicap races and favourite price (currently this will be based on the BSP).
You'd also want to set your bet type to "Offer Price" and then probably group your results by "Specific race".
You'll then see how many were matched in each race, along with overall profitability.
As you say, you can then play around with different price points.
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@David-Hodgson You couldn't backtest this strategy in the software, because as far as I am aware, it doesn't facilitate "in-play" only betting. But you could use your three criteria to get all of the data out of the software and then analyse it off line in Excell (other spreadsheet products are available)
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Hi there, i've come across a strategy that i have tried to build on the horse racing software but i can't figure out the rules or whether it is possible or not so i thought i'd ask here.
Anyone that can help build this would be appreciated.
So the stratgey is a lay the field strategy.
Looking for all weather courses, only handicap races, where the fav was 3.0 or higher.
If all those criteria are met the look to lay the field.
Obviously can play around with what prices to aim to get matched on lays, 1.5, 1.8, 2.0 etc.Is it possible to create this on the software?
Thanks
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@Jonathan-Jones Yes, the URL updates as soon as the daily qualifiers have run.
We could possibly get the software to replace the URL qualifiers for an individual strategy if it happens to be run manually in the builder...
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@Adam
The BFBM automation url. The selections on that update at the same frequency as the daily_qualifiers download on that tab dont they?Edit~
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@John-Folan It fired today, just the one, Dasher Riley I think, so It looks like its working now thanks John
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Staking.
Anyone got any ideas for a good strategy?
Currently i use 1% of bank (at the start of the day) as the stake and its not really working out. I am not really getting any bang for the buck as they say.I run a portfolio and according to the backtest i should be up 43 points up. But assuming a 1% stake and a starting balance of £50 only in profit by £8.27 (so only 16 points if i used a flat stake from that 1% of my starting bank).
It gets worse on my live results. Forgetting about the differences because of non runners messing up the rank criteria and the favourite issues (and the odd execution issue) this staking thing becomes even more frustrating. On a points basis i am in profit by 18 points (so assuming that flat stake on my £50 starting bank i would be £9 in profit) but in financial terms i am at -£2.45.
According to the modelling using 1% per bet based on PL at that time would be slightly worse than the above this month (looking at historicals it does vary but long term would be more profitable but also higher DD).
So, anyone using a better method they would like to share?
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@John-Folan I'll let you know in a few hours John! It wasn't working last couple days but I just looked through it and found another rule (not just in staking) that had the tip import name used, and mine was different to yours, so I've just changed it and will see if it fires today!
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@Paul-Keighley did that work better?
