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The BTC Horse Racing Thread

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    replied to Dan MacKinnon on last edited by
    #801

    @Dan-MacKinnon

    Never seen it before. Fairbot shows 2 winners. The software suggests Rievaulx Raver won, My betfair bet balance says Laser Guided won. Wondered if anyone watched the race or also has bets on those horses.

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    Joseph Henderson
    replied to Adam on last edited by
    #802

    @Adam I am only filtering based on course, race type and the beaten fav filter. Presumably the odds range in the strategy builder doesn’t have an impact on the qualifiers that are pulled through or does that need to be widened too?

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    #803

    This is a good point! I believe we already have deadheat handling on the roadmap. I'll bring it forward as a couple have happened recently!

    BTC's Website and Software Man

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    replied to A Former User on last edited by
    #804

    @Jonathan-Jones This was a dead heat, I was watching this with a nice profit that was then halved 😞 There were effectively two half winners. I didn't check to see how the software handles dead heats.

    Stay curious, stay relevant, stay humble, keep contributing and above all, be grateful. Peace out!

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    Dan MacKinnon
    replied to A Former User on last edited by
    #805

    @Jonathan-Jones how do you get two winners?

    I know Adam has said before that sometimes if the data changes from betfair it takes a while to update the backtesting. Whenever I spot anything that seems wrong or out of sync with my results I mark it a different colour and go back to it in a couple of weeks to see. Tbf it hardly happens so most of the time I just ignore it

    “Greed moves the goalposts” - Ryan Holiday

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    #806

    Anyone any idea what this is all about?
    Ripon 18:40 yesterday.
    This is what he software backtest says:
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    For a very nice total profit of 25 points.

    Except its complete fiction.

    These are the bets actually taken:

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    Exactly the same bets yet it resulted in a loss on the race of a fraction of a point.

    Interestingly fairbot looks like this:
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    So, i am guessing photo finish or something and the winner was changed. The software has the wrong winner.

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    Dan MacKinnon
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    #807

    I've been away for the past week and took a break from trading. Has LTBF righted itself or is it continuing to be a pain? The backtesting shows it's still struggling

    “Greed moves the goalposts” - Ryan Holiday

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    replied to Joseph Henderson on last edited by Adam
    #808

    @Joseph-Henderson It depends entirely on the criteria in your strategy.

    If there's anything in there that could change between 07:00 and 13:30 then yes, that could change your qualifiers.

    BTC's Website and Software Man

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    Joseph Henderson
    replied to Adam on last edited by
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    @Adam Does this mean if you download the Daily Qualifiers at say 7am and upload them to BFBot, then not all selections that would appear at say 1.30pm will necessarily have pulled through by that time. I’m using a stripped filter so didn’t think the time I downloaded Daily Qualifiers mattered, but maybe I’m wrong. This might explain why my results from the Bot vary a bit to the results in the software, which is bugging me!

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    replied to Toyin Butler on last edited by
    #810

    @Toyin-Butler said in The BTC Horse Racing Thread:

    @Adam Just a thought, would it be possible to have an updated at reference on qualifiers?

    Yes possibly, it's on the roadmap 👍

    BTC's Website and Software Man

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    replied to Greg Mitchell on last edited by
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    @Greg-Mitchell said in The BTC Horse Racing Thread:

    @Adam Quick Question on the software, if I use the "Traded Rank" filter, and say chose just Rank 1 and then add whatever other filters I feel like. Then set it to place the bet at 10 seconds before the start time. Does it pick the horse that is traded Rank 1 at that time or the one that finished the race as rank 1?

    Currently the final ranking, which I appreciate isn't useful. We are working on linking various similar stats to the entry time window instead of final values.

    BTC's Website and Software Man

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    replied to Adam on last edited by
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    @Adam Just a thought, would it be possible to have an updated at reference on qualifiers?

    Stay curious, stay relevant, stay humble, keep contributing and above all, be grateful. Peace out!

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    @Adam Quick Question on the software, if I use the "Traded Rank" filter, and say chose just Rank 1 and then add whatever other filters I feel like. Then set it to place the bet at 10 seconds before the start time. Does it pick the horse that is traded Rank 1 at that time or the one that finished the race as rank 1?

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    replied to Adam on last edited by
    #814

    @Adam
    OK, so i must of just missed the 12:02. The 14:05 looks about right. So, i guess i need to make sure to allow about 2 hours if i make any changes

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    replied to A Former User on last edited by
    #815

    @Jonathan-Jones The times above were the finishing times of the entire qualifiers run (for everyone's active strategies) in BST.

    The last couple of times the qualifiers for that specific strategy of yours were updated were (in BST):

    08:32
    10:04
    12:02
    14:05

    BTC's Website and Software Man

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    replied to Adam on last edited by A Former User
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    @Adam

    The ones are showing are definately old ones. I may of found the cause of my issues with that BestBacks strategy. The strategy is ok, the filter is not. It still had the Favourite conditions. It obviously shouldnt. So, i must of misclicked save at some point or something. Anyway, i removed it this morning. Thought it was about 11 - 11:30 ish, was definitely well before 1. The favourite is still showing in the conditions on my qualifiers (favourite 1-4) so they are definitely wrong.

    And:
    They have now (in the last couple of mins) corrected.
    Too late for the day though.

    Those times BST or UTC?

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    replied to A Former User on last edited by
    #817

    @Jonathan-Jones These are the timings of each qualifiers update for today so far:

    02:00
    03:30
    05:00
    06:30
    08:00
    09:30
    11:00
    13:00

    BTC's Website and Software Man

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    wrote on last edited by A Former User
    #818

    What is going on with the qualifiers tab these days? past few days i have been thinking its been slow updating but today i know its not changed in about 2 1/2 hours. I updated a strategy filter some point between 11 and 11:30. Its not updated the qualifiers. They are still the old ones.

    Thats me out for the day then.

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    replied to Martin on last edited by
    #819

    @Martin I shall nose 😄

    Read the first post on both threads.

    Horse Trading Resources
    https://forum.betfairtradingcommunity.com/topic/1111/john-s-horse-trading-resources

    BfBotmanager
    https://forum.betfairtradingcommunity.com/topic/2915/bfbotmanager-automation-discussion

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    Martin btc team
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    #820

    @John-Folan think I need you to create some bots for the new strategies I just released!

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