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The BTC Horse Racing Thread

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  • AdamA Offline
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    Adam btc team
    wrote on last edited by
    #801

    This is correct. It normally happens if you've imported the strategy from an old file or copied an old strategy.

    When you re-select the columns you want and save the strategy (this being the key bit), the columns will be saved in the new format and shouldn't cause a problem again.

    BTC's Website and Software Man

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    Nigel
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    #802

    @Jonathan-Jones thanks for reply

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    A Former User
    replied to Nigel on last edited by
    #803

    @Nigel
    Think its down to the version of the software the strat was originally saved in. I run a daily export and always use the same 5 fields. This was really frustrating me too. Just set it up how you want then save. You might also need to run it and save again. A couple of mine didnt stick but they are all ok now.

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    #804

    hi all, why would my individual trades not display anything, the only way i can get it to display is to go into tailor your results selection and deselect the ones i want and then reselect them, then they will display , this is the case for all strats, thanks nigel

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    George Bowling Banned
    replied to John Folan on last edited by
    #805

    @John-Folan hows you variation of LTBF been doing this month? the standard pre-set has been very poor this month. I have a couple of variations running on the software now that I will continue to monitor if this continues over the next few months

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  • John FolanJ Offline
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    John Folan
    replied to George Bowling on last edited by
    #806

    @George-Bowling said in The BTC Horse Racing Thread:

    @John-Folan what have you been running John?

    Short odd lays, pace backs a variations on LTBF and a couple of others in testing.

    Read the first post on both threads.

    Horse Trading Resources
    https://forum.betfairtradingcommunity.com/topic/1111/john-s-horse-trading-resources

    BfBotmanager
    https://forum.betfairtradingcommunity.com/topic/2915/bfbotmanager-automation-discussion

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    George Bowling Banned
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    #807

    @John-Folan what have you been running John?

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    George Bowling Banned
    replied to A Former User on last edited by
    #808

    @Karl-Pick Good Luck with it Karl! Let us know how you get on next month with it!
    I have only started testing myself and playing about with things for the past little while but wont be all that long untill I am joining you and taking the jump in too!

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    replied to Martin on last edited by
    #809

    Been testing, sampling and playing with 1k for 8 months, so June 1st is D-day.
    Time to start properly 2k bank 2% stake per selection with no splits in races.....here's hoping.
    I have decided to use the preset Course and Distance and Pace for my 2 strategies with my own research/checks on the selections to weed out prospective none triers.

    FINGERS CROSSED!!

    PS still cannot get BFBM bot to work so at least with these 2 strategies I dont have to sit in front of the screen like with BTF and Layshort!!

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    John Folan
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    #810

    Backside handed to me on a plate yesterday. I think it was overdue. Serves me right for my previous post about how well things were going ๐Ÿ˜‚๐Ÿ˜‚

    Read the first post on both threads.

    Horse Trading Resources
    https://forum.betfairtradingcommunity.com/topic/1111/john-s-horse-trading-resources

    BfBotmanager
    https://forum.betfairtradingcommunity.com/topic/2915/bfbotmanager-automation-discussion

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    #811

    Think I might dump scalping soon. I owe Adam a big arsed drink at some point. Love this software.

    Read the first post on both threads.

    Horse Trading Resources
    https://forum.betfairtradingcommunity.com/topic/1111/john-s-horse-trading-resources

    BfBotmanager
    https://forum.betfairtradingcommunity.com/topic/2915/bfbotmanager-automation-discussion

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    @Ryan-Clark said in The BTC Horse Racing Thread:

    minute before, also

    I will have a look at those criteria. I removed the fav from mine and lowered the entry time already. In backtest it looks much better so hopefully should work out going forward

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    @Jonathan-Jones I have a version of LTBF running which doesnโ€™t include the fav filters and i have reduced the time period to place the bets to 1 minute before, also have reduced max odds to 10. Itโ€™s not as profitable in the long run but still very good returns and is much more stable as in no months so far that are in heavy negative like the base filter for May (my version are 20 points up for may)

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  • Keith DriscollK Offline
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    Keith Driscoll
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    #814

    If you are using BFBM, it is easy to find the Fav. Set, DETERMINE FAVOURITE POSITIONS BY USING: start price
    Then bet/lay the fav 0s-1s in-play.

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    A Former User
    replied to Joshua Varley on last edited by
    #815

    @Joshua-Varley
    Yep. I described it the wrong way round.
    9 mins out your selection is 3rd in the ordr so you place your lay bet. By 4 mins out its now favourite and then goes on to win. You take a loss of several (up to 13 points) on that horse yet the next day you run the software and it tells you you actually bet on a totally different horse and made 1 point profit (bit different from your several point loss). Been happening a lot this month on LBF.

    Yes, you can change the window and i have a couple of back strategies that fire within the last second that use fav and they dont have the issue. But, LBF as its in the presets uses fav and is 10 mins. Interestingly LBF works very well without that condition too.

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    @Jonathan-Jones just out of curiosity, in regards to your comments about the fav condition- are you talking about horses that fire between 10 mins out and start time, as they have swappped into at least 3rd, or horses that have been in the top 2 but are in 3rd at the time of bet placement?

    The reason I ask, because if the later, would it not have fired anyway without the fav condition? But if you meant horses swapping in between 10 mins and starting time, could you not just ask the bot not to place bets after say 5 seconds after the window opens? That way you would have to pretty unlucky (and it would obv be pretty rare) for the horse to swap in that 5 second window?

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    Keith Driscoll
    replied to Philip Brogan on last edited by
    #817

    @Philip-Brogan said in The BTC Horse Racing Thread:

    @Keith-Driscoll Thanks for your help. What strategies are you running.

    Quite a few. I've been doing this for over 20 years. ๐Ÿ˜„

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    Philip Brogan
    replied to Keith Driscoll on last edited by
    #818

    @Keith-Driscoll Thanks for your help. What strategies are you running.

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    Philip Brogan
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    #819

    Thanks Keith and Greenie. I feel a bit better about LTBF now.

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  • ? Offline
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    A Former User
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    #820

    LBF is quite an old one and its been pretty consistent. Its obviously not great this month but if you have been running it plain (with the favourite condition) then you will of been totally screwed over this month. I cant check every day and its near impossible to check past data but i have (on the days i could check the massive discrepancies i have had this month) counted a loss of 16 points directly due to horses swapping places out of the top 2 (so getting laid) then going on to win. Thats just what i could see so i bet there have been more. Thing is you dont need that condition for LBF. Its better without it.

    I am 76% DD this month (on a 1% stake plan). Not all genuine poor performance though. That issue with horses swapping (now rectified going forwards), issues with bets not matching (now also mitigated to an extent going forwards) and some p**s poor coding of my little tool to create the fairbot automation rules from the selections helped me lose out on some additional profits on a couple of strats i recently added to my portfolio. Teething troubles really. Not sure about topping up to my original start balance at the end of the month (its currently about 30% down from that). Still think i might have a few issues i need to hammer out first. It might be worth it though. One of the things about compunding profits is what you add at the start (even if its only a little) is much more important than what comes later.

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