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  • Greg MitchellG Offline
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    replied to Martin on last edited by
    #4521

    @Martin It seems to work for me, when I start a new strategy, I paper trade the first 80 selections, then calculate the Strike Rate and min/max odds required, then go live with small stakes, revising the odds every 50 selections if necessary, until I have hit the 385 mark and then if the strategy is still working I go fully live with a bank and % of bank staking dependent on the ROI and Drawdown..

    As I say, I'm no statistician and it may not be technically correct but it hasn't done me any harm (yet!)

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  • Richard LatimerR Offline
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    Richard Latimer
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    #4522

    I'm already guaranteed another red month after the events of Sunday but hopefully this will stop the rot and begin a decent if quiet June. Lay Under 1.5:

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    Trading Spreadsheet linked below
    https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fi/3gnk1vku1krkoyfcq37y6/Trading-Bible.xlsx?rlkey=01eqhp8u73s61iy2s814sqfll&dl=0

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  • MartinM Offline
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    Martin btc team
    replied to Greg Mitchell on last edited by
    #4523

    @Greg-Mitchell interesting that! I like a number of 2000 for certainty on total strategy effectiveness (or as close to as can get) but 385 makes sense for odds filter!

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    Stuart Capstick
    wrote on last edited by
    #4524

    @Richard-Latimer

    Basically, to be 95% confident that your margin of error is 5% or less, you need a sample of 385.

    If you want greater confidence and a lower margin of error, you need larger samples.

    The above is largely used for survey data.

    A better way to test betting/trading results is to test the p value (probability that your results are due to chance alone).

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  • Richard LatimerR Offline
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    Richard Latimer
    replied to Greg Mitchell on last edited by Richard Latimer
    #4525

    @Greg-Mitchell said in *****New Football Thread*****:

    @Joseph-Henderson said in *****New Football Thread*****:

    How many selections would you suggest collating before applying a min odds filter? Thanks

    Statistically, if you have a strategy whose number of selections will be unlimited, then 385 is the most you should have to track to be 95% confident that they are representative of an unlimited number of selections.

    Obviously this is quite a lot and could take some time (strategy dependent). When starting a new strategy, I tend to use 80 as the first stop, as this represents an 95% confidence for a sample number of 100 selections. Then I review every further 50 selections until I have a total of 385 and then stop changing things.

    Whether this is right or wrong, I dunno, I'm sure some statistics whizz will disagree, but it works for me.

    Why 385? what's the significance of this number? Curious

    Trading Spreadsheet linked below
    https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fi/3gnk1vku1krkoyfcq37y6/Trading-Bible.xlsx?rlkey=01eqhp8u73s61iy2s814sqfll&dl=0

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  • Greg MitchellG Offline
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    @Joseph-Henderson said in *****New Football Thread*****:

    How many selections would you suggest collating before applying a min odds filter? Thanks

    Statistically, if you have a strategy whose number of selections will be unlimited, then 385 is the most you should have to track to be 95% confident that they are representative of an unlimited number of selections.

    Obviously this is quite a lot and could take some time (strategy dependent). When starting a new strategy, I tend to use 80 as the first stop, as this represents an 95% confidence for a sample number of 100 selections. Then I review every further 50 selections until I have a total of 385 and then stop changing things.

    Whether this is right or wrong, I dunno, I'm sure some statistics whizz will disagree, but it works for me.

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    Joseph Henderson
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    #4527

    How many selections would you suggest collating before applying a min odds filter? Thanks

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  • MartinM Offline
    MartinM Offline
    Martin btc team
    replied to A Former User on last edited by
    #4528

    @Karl-Pick big odds on the Chelsea one!

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  • Richard LatimerR Offline
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    Richard Latimer
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    @Richard-Latimer said in *****New Football Thread*****:

    @Richard-Latimer said in *****New Football Thread*****:

    Lay Under 1.5:

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    I should stick to laying the overs at the moment haha! Still a green month provided Keflavik don't screw it up.

    They've screwed it up. What a crappy day to follow yesterday!

    Trading Spreadsheet linked below
    https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fi/3gnk1vku1krkoyfcq37y6/Trading-Bible.xlsx?rlkey=01eqhp8u73s61iy2s814sqfll&dl=0

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  • Richard LatimerR Offline
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    @Richard-Latimer said in *****New Football Thread*****:

    Lay Under 1.5:

    49eadf12-727c-4362-8c0d-394aaa2db2ae-image.png

    I should stick to laying the overs at the moment haha! Still a green month provided Keflavik don't screw it up.

    Trading Spreadsheet linked below
    https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fi/3gnk1vku1krkoyfcq37y6/Trading-Bible.xlsx?rlkey=01eqhp8u73s61iy2s814sqfll&dl=0

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    replied to Martin on last edited by
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    @Martin.... Wonder what price you would have got if you had backed Chelsea and West Ham to finish 5th and 6th in the London Part of the premiership???

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  • MartinM Offline
    MartinM Offline
    Martin btc team
    wrote on last edited by
    #4532

    Good to see the summer leagues kicking in!

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  • Richard LatimerR Offline
    Richard LatimerR Offline
    Richard Latimer
    wrote on last edited by
    #4533

    Lay Under 1.5:

    49eadf12-727c-4362-8c0d-394aaa2db2ae-image.png

    Trading Spreadsheet linked below
    https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fi/3gnk1vku1krkoyfcq37y6/Trading-Bible.xlsx?rlkey=01eqhp8u73s61iy2s814sqfll&dl=0

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  • Richard LatimerR Offline
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    Richard Latimer
    replied to Martin on last edited by
    #4534

    @Martin thanks Martin

    Trading Spreadsheet linked below
    https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fi/3gnk1vku1krkoyfcq37y6/Trading-Bible.xlsx?rlkey=01eqhp8u73s61iy2s814sqfll&dl=0

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  • MartinM Offline
    MartinM Offline
    Martin btc team
    replied to Richard Latimer on last edited by
    #4535

    @Richard-Latimer well done mate great stuff!

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  • Richard LatimerR Offline
    Richard LatimerR Offline
    Richard Latimer
    replied to Richard Latimer on last edited by
    #4536

    @Richard-Latimer said in *****New Football Thread*****:

    @Richard-Latimer said in *****New Football Thread*****:

    Getting these out early. Lay Under 1.5 in blue/Lay Over 1.5 in purple:

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    Another successful over lay @ odds of 1.41

    3/3 and the last one I laid @ 1.18

    Trading Spreadsheet linked below
    https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fi/3gnk1vku1krkoyfcq37y6/Trading-Bible.xlsx?rlkey=01eqhp8u73s61iy2s814sqfll&dl=0

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  • MartinM Offline
    MartinM Offline
    Martin btc team
    wrote on last edited by
    #4537

    Going to be a dramatic final day this isn't it!

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  • Richard LatimerR Offline
    Richard LatimerR Offline
    Richard Latimer
    replied to Richard Latimer on last edited by
    #4538

    @Richard-Latimer said in *****New Football Thread*****:

    Getting these out early. Lay Under 1.5 in blue/Lay Over 1.5 in purple:

    2a862b92-035a-427b-b04c-0dfbd723e1f4-image.png

    Another successful over lay @ odds of 1.41

    Trading Spreadsheet linked below
    https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fi/3gnk1vku1krkoyfcq37y6/Trading-Bible.xlsx?rlkey=01eqhp8u73s61iy2s814sqfll&dl=0

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  • Richard LatimerR Offline
    Richard LatimerR Offline
    Richard Latimer
    replied to Martin on last edited by
    #4539

    @Martin said in *****New Football Thread*****:

    @Richard-Latimer said in *****New Football Thread*****:

    Poor old Dortmund!

    Why have a guy take a penalty for you in such a big moment who has never done so before? Will never understand the mentality of some footballing decisions!

    Didn't realise he had. 11 straight years Bayern have won it now apparently!

    Trading Spreadsheet linked below
    https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fi/3gnk1vku1krkoyfcq37y6/Trading-Bible.xlsx?rlkey=01eqhp8u73s61iy2s814sqfll&dl=0

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  • MartinM Offline
    MartinM Offline
    Martin btc team
    replied to Richard Latimer on last edited by
    #4540

    @Richard-Latimer said in *****New Football Thread*****:

    Poor old Dortmund!

    Why have a guy take a penalty for you in such a big moment who has never done so before? Will never understand the mentality of some footballing decisions!

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