The BTC Horse Racing Thread
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@david-milligan did you go into the settings to change the market refresh rate? John posted a how to a few posts down.
Seems to have made the difference for me and I have a lot of markets open
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Hopefully sorted now - the bot will only monitor the markets that are loaded via the tips and not the 1,000,000 other markets I had loaded in the background
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@john-folan said in The BTC Horse Racing Thread:
@david-milligan said in The BTC Horse Racing Thread:
@john-folan Only one bet for me - you running the strategy as is or have you made some alterations?
Having said that, the other lay strategies had a few picks which all won too!
Weird. I had 5/5. Should be the same bot posted
5/5 for me too. Happy days
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@david-milligan said in The BTC Horse Racing Thread:
@john-folan Only one bet for me - you running the strategy as is or have you made some alterations?
Having said that, the other lay strategies had a few picks which all won too!
Weird. I had 5/5. Should be the same bot posted
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@john-folan Only one bet for me - you running the strategy as is or have you made some alterations?
Having said that, the other lay strategies had a few picks which all won too!
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Storming day for the short odds lays. Thanks Dundalk
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@John-Folan Just tried that again and hey presto it works this time! Not sure why it didn't before
but it seems fine now, thanks 
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@angus-macleod said in The BTC Horse Racing Thread:
Alright folks
if I can just briefly steal your attention from the mountains of profit you're all making and ask, is the software working fine for you guys?I've tried closing down the browser, refreshing it, logging in and out of VPN, making sure cookies aren't blocked but she (the software) doesn't seem to want to play ball
I had this earlier. Just cleared history, cookies etc and it was fine after. Worked for me earlier.
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Alright folks
if I can just briefly steal your attention from the mountains of profit you're all making and ask, is the software working fine for you guys?I've tried closing down the browser, refreshing it, logging in and out of VPN, making sure cookies aren't blocked but she (the software) doesn't seem to want to play ball
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@kevin-pepper said in The BTC Horse Racing Thread:
@Adam or any other horse software experts
Hi, I'm trying to work out how I can select a Favourite to Lay but only if the 2nd Favourite price is say lower than 5. I am ok with my favourite selection. I can see there's BSP Rank so I'll select if 2 (for the 2nd fav) but how do I then link a rule regarding the 2nd favourite's price? I assume I need a rule group?There's a "2nd Favourite Price" rule, so just add that with a value < 5.
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@andy-donnelly funny I had the exact same train of thoughts as you today
I'm going to use Maria staking on pace lays and Lay BF - makes so much more sense to me. With fixed liability we are wagering much less on the very horses that are most likely to lose!Just in case you do go down the automation route BFBM has an inbuilt Maria staking option
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@Chris-Osborne I agree that’s definitely the upside.
Just thinking Maria staking or something similar gives you the best of both worlds in a way.
@Martin Do you use it in practice?
I was very tempted to go that way as I’m not using automation yet and in some ways it’s easier to place trades with this method as well.
Only reason I didn’t go that route was doing a comparison over the whole data set it did look like laying to liability was more profitable but not by much
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@andy-donnelly I like Maria staking a lot
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@andy-donnelly said in The BTC Horse Racing Thread:
Switched from fixed stake to fixed liability on some lay strategies and sods law first day of it today, I was considerably worse off because several short priced selections won their races.
Question - Has or is anyone using a Maria staking method or something similar?
I know it’s only one day but feel like laying to liability relies on your shorter priced selections performing really
Look at this another way what if a pace lay bet was a loser at say 10-1 instead of losing £90 on a £10 liability you lose £10.
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Switched from fixed stake to fixed liability on some lay strategies and sods law first day of it today, I was considerably worse off because several short priced selections won their races.
Question - Has or is anyone using a Maria staking method or something similar?
I know it’s only one day but feel like laying to liability relies on your shorter priced selections performing really well.
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@Adam or any other horse software experts
Hi, I'm trying to work out how I can select a Favourite to Lay but only if the 2nd Favourite price is say lower than 5. I am ok with my favourite selection. I can see there's BSP Rank so I'll select if 2 (for the 2nd fav) but how do I then link a rule regarding the 2nd favourite's price? I assume I need a rule group?
Any help much appreciated
Thanks
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Today's updates on the horse racing software are below. If you don't see today's date at the top of the Changelog tab in the software, refresh the page and clear your browser cache for https://horse-racing.betfairtradingcommunity.com:
Updated distance rule to round to nearest furlong
Previously, we would only count whole furlongs. For example, a race with a distance of 15f 180y would previously have been classed as 15f. Now it is classed as 16f. Added 2nd, 3rd and 4th favourite price rules
You can now build strategies based on 2nd, 3rd or 4th favourite price. You can also compare them to each other, e.g. "2nd favourite price is double the favourite price" (NOTE: THIS IS BASED ON BSP) Added 2nd and 3rd to horse equipment rule
So you can now query things like "2nd race for horse since wind operation" Fixed commission issue with first trade in resultset
Previously, even if there was an overall market profit, the very first trade in a resultset would not have commission deducted if it was the only selection in that race Added prices toggle to "max qualifiers" option
You can choose the stage at which races are filtered out based on the number of qualifiers in the race.I want to make sure that last one is explained well in the software as it's a bit confusing. Any feedback on the tooltip wording is welcome:
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@karl-pick
Thats an interesting approach. Obviously you cant backtest that in the software but you could easily pull all the required data from the software and backtest it in MS Access or somthing like that.
