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The BTC Horse Racing Thread

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    Andy Lucy
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    Wonder if fairbot does will look into that thanks

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  • John FolanJ Online
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    @daniel-mills said in The BTC Horse Racing Thread:

    @andy-lucy no extra software, it's just a term for earmarking a set amount (bank) to a single strategy. Say you have £1000 to trade with and 5 strategies - you might opt to £200 bank for each strategy. That way, if if one goes on a bad streak, it can still recover and doesn't negatively impact the other strategies.

    It's really easy to blow a bank if you're using the whole thing on multiple strats!

    Bfbotmanager does this for you. You can assign separate banks to each strategy. At the moment Bet Angel(not sure about Fairbot) doesn’t do this. He’s got no intention of adding it either. I suggested it years ago.

    Read the first post on both threads.

    Horse Trading Resources
    https://forum.betfairtradingcommunity.com/topic/1111/john-s-horse-trading-resources

    BfBotmanager
    https://forum.betfairtradingcommunity.com/topic/2915/bfbotmanager-automation-discussion

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    @andy-lucy no extra software, it's just a term for earmarking a set amount (bank) to a single strategy. Say you have £1000 to trade with and 5 strategies - you might opt to £200 bank for each strategy. That way, if if one goes on a bad streak, it can still recover and doesn't negatively impact the other strategies.

    It's really easy to blow a bank if you're using the whole thing on multiple strats!

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    Andy Lucy
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    When u say different banks for different things etc does that mean u have to pay for multiple software or how’s that work? Just intrigued

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    Dan MacKinnon
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    @john-folan I do the same. I load up mine and leave it. Different banks for different approaches so it never clashes.

    I fully accepted I’m never going to be as smart as the software so best to just get out of the way!

    “Greed moves the goalposts” - Ryan Holiday

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    This discussion made me chuckle. I don’t even look. I just load them all on and let the bots sort it out. I’ve got stuff laying to a liability, stuff laying to stake, stuff backing to stake. All at different compounding rates(so percentages of their individual banks. It all sorts itself out in the long term even if it can be counter productive on occasion. I like @Keith-Driscoll ’s approach though.

    I’m just lazy 🤣

    Read the first post on both threads.

    Horse Trading Resources
    https://forum.betfairtradingcommunity.com/topic/1111/john-s-horse-trading-resources

    BfBotmanager
    https://forum.betfairtradingcommunity.com/topic/2915/bfbotmanager-automation-discussion

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    I mean back as dumping the lay sorry

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    It’s parallel world and zip in the later races that’s the ones that clash I think u mean as they are back c and d winner and pace lays. I will just lay then thanks for that info 👍🏻

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    @panagiotis said in The BTC Horse Racing Thread:

    @martin Hello.

    Today we have an example with the same horse in two different strategies to back and Lay.

    Ayr 16.15 the Horse Rowdy Rustler

    Back the Fav 2,5-6
    Pace Lays 3-11

    I scheduled already the back strategy. To let it run or to avoid this race and horse?

    I think you're reading the email wrong. They're not the same horse. The Back the Favourite is backing whichever horse is the favourite at the time. The Pace Lay is laying that particular horse. The two strategies can work together as you're still expecting one horse to win and the other to lose. The only way it doesn't work is if the pace lay IS the favourite

    “Greed moves the goalposts” - Ryan Holiday

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    @keith-driscoll said in The BTC Horse Racing Thread:

    I've always used the rule to dump the lay selection, as they usually have the lowest ROI%. It works over the long term.

    Make sense.

    Thanks, mate

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    @panagiotis said in The BTC Horse Racing Thread:

    @martin Hello.

    Today we have an example with the same horse in two different strategies to back and Lay.

    Ayr 16.15 the Horse Rowdy Rustler

    Back the Fav 2,5-6
    Pace Lays 3-11

    I scheduled already the back strategy. To let it run or to avoid this race and horse?

    I've always used the rule to dump the lay selection, as they usually have the lowest ROI%. It works over the long term.

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    @martin Hello.

    Today we have an example with the same horse in two different strategies to back and Lay.

    Ayr 16.15 the Horse Rowdy Rustler

    Back the Fav 2,5-6
    Pace Lays 3-11

    I scheduled already the back strategy. To let it run or to avoid this race and horse?

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    I shall be laying the favourites in these races 10 seconds before the start time subject to the following conditions:

    Number of Runners 4-14.
    Odds Between 1.8-2.4.
    DSLR: 3-200.

    Full strategy available here in the pinned post.
    https://forum.betfairtradingcommunity.com/topic/3531/horse-racing-shared-strategies-megathread-downloads
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    Read the first post on both threads.

    Horse Trading Resources
    https://forum.betfairtradingcommunity.com/topic/1111/john-s-horse-trading-resources

    BfBotmanager
    https://forum.betfairtradingcommunity.com/topic/2915/bfbotmanager-automation-discussion

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    @martin Super!

    Can i do it automatically from fairbot or there i can use only one strategy per race?

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    Daniel Sawkins
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    @martin Hi, Yes they have been working fine for a few months it's just today I couldn't get them to pick any selections up, very strange. I'm hoping it's just my phone, I'll check them on my laptop in the morning and hopefully my phone will sort it's self out.

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    @panagiotis if it's not the same horse you would just do both

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    Martin btc team
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    @daniel-sawkins have you turned them on?

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    @martin I have another important question.
    Many times we have in the same race Back strategy and Lay strategy?
    What do i need to do in this case?
    Exist a way how to activate 2 different automated strategies on fairbot for the same race or we need to avoid this race or choose only one strategy?

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    Daniel Sawkins
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    @Adam Hi Adam, do you have any suggestions on how to get my daily selections working as the filters are not picking anything up for me? Thanks.

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  • John FolanJ Online
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    John Folan
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    I shall be laying the favourites in these races 10 seconds before the start time subject to the following conditions:

    Number of Runners 4-14.
    Odds Between 1.8-2.4.
    DSLR: 3-200.

    Full strategy available here in the pinned post.
    https://forum.betfairtradingcommunity.com/topic/3531/horse-racing-shared-strategies-megathread-downloads
    0_1672572865864_SOL.JPG

    Read the first post on both threads.

    Horse Trading Resources
    https://forum.betfairtradingcommunity.com/topic/1111/john-s-horse-trading-resources

    BfBotmanager
    https://forum.betfairtradingcommunity.com/topic/2915/bfbotmanager-automation-discussion

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