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The BTC Horse Racing Thread

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  • Rick WatsonR Offline
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    Rick Watson
    replied to Martin on last edited by
    #1921

    Hi all over the past week or so i have been getting fewer and fewer selections come up on stratergies im following. i also saw a few others mention this and also saw adams comment . now question for the regular / old school horse racing gurus. is this because of the types of races on at the mo and how few they are or shall i bother adam. id rather not bother adam at the mo as looking forward to the back testing on the new footy software being developed. cheers in advance

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  • John FolanJ Offline
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    John Folan
    replied to Angus Macleod on last edited by
    #1922

    @angus-macleod it’s addictive as well. It rears its head at least once a year 🤣🤣

    Read the first post on both threads.

    Horse Trading Resources
    https://forum.betfairtradingcommunity.com/topic/1111/john-s-horse-trading-resources

    BfBotmanager
    https://forum.betfairtradingcommunity.com/topic/2915/bfbotmanager-automation-discussion

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  • Angus MacleodA Offline
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    Angus Macleod
    replied to John Folan on last edited by
    #1923

    @john-folan said in The BTC Horse Racing Thread:

    @dan-mackinnon You will appreciate this then 😉 An oldie but a goldie.

    "🎶 ...I'm lovin' it, lovin' it lovin' it...🎶 this made my morning 🤣

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  • John FolanJ Offline
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    John Folan
    wrote on last edited by
    #1924

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    Read the first post on both threads.

    Horse Trading Resources
    https://forum.betfairtradingcommunity.com/topic/1111/john-s-horse-trading-resources

    BfBotmanager
    https://forum.betfairtradingcommunity.com/topic/2915/bfbotmanager-automation-discussion

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  • John FolanJ Offline
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    John Folan
    replied to Dan MacKinnon on last edited by
    #1925

    @dan-mackinnon You will appreciate this then 😉 An oldie but a goldie.

    Read the first post on both threads.

    Horse Trading Resources
    https://forum.betfairtradingcommunity.com/topic/1111/john-s-horse-trading-resources

    BfBotmanager
    https://forum.betfairtradingcommunity.com/topic/2915/bfbotmanager-automation-discussion

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    Dan MacKinnon
    wrote on last edited by
    #1926

    Don't know about anyone else but loads of horse racing today.

    Something else that I never truly appreciated is the inventiveness of naming horses. "Bob Malhey is trailing AvAnotherOne by 2 lengths"

    “Greed moves the goalposts” - Ryan Holiday

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  • Greg MitchellG Offline
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    Greg Mitchell
    replied to Dan MacKinnon on last edited by
    #1927

    @dan-mackinnon said in The BTC Horse Racing Thread:

    Something that I've really enjoyed looking at is the lay strategies on the software. I think it suits my trading style more having lots of small wins and the occasional big loss, but (hopefully) overall heading in the right direction.

    I had a mess around with Martin's Beaten Favourite. The filter is here 0_1668523149182_rules_export-laybeatenfav.json

    It has a really decent strike rate and when I went through the individual results there were only 251 losing trades from c.2,900

    Using £1 flat stakes this is what I got
    0_1668523222118_Screenshot 2022-11-15 143315 - flat stakes.png

    But after listening to Martin's YouTube Q&A video he mentioned wanting to know your liability. This is something I never really thought about as I see this as a hobby. I then thought what if I changed it to a fixed liability so I went into every trade like it was a placing a bet and I've written off my £14 from a worst-case scenario.

    This is using £14 liability from a £100 bank.
    0_1668523412007_Screenshot 2022-11-15 143423 - fixed liability.png

    The software is really good at running the numbers on a thought experiment like that!

    This is doing great at the moment @Dan-MacKinnon

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  • John FolanJ Offline
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    John Folan
    wrote on last edited by
    #1928

    This explains it

    https://www.racingpost.com/news/its-needed-riders-heading-for-the-sun-as-latest-flat-jockey-break-kicks-in/589228

    Read the first post on both threads.

    Horse Trading Resources
    https://forum.betfairtradingcommunity.com/topic/1111/john-s-horse-trading-resources

    BfBotmanager
    https://forum.betfairtradingcommunity.com/topic/2915/bfbotmanager-automation-discussion

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    A Former User
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    #1929

    I read somewhere the flat including all weather are taking a break

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  • John FolanJ Offline
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    John Folan
    replied to Caroline Middlebrook on last edited by
    #1930

    @mrs-h-m-price said in The BTC Horse Racing Thread:

    why is there so little racing on atm? 3 meetings yesterday and only 2 today? Seems low...

    Quite common this time of year tbh.

    Read the first post on both threads.

    Horse Trading Resources
    https://forum.betfairtradingcommunity.com/topic/1111/john-s-horse-trading-resources

    BfBotmanager
    https://forum.betfairtradingcommunity.com/topic/2915/bfbotmanager-automation-discussion

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  • Caroline MiddlebrookC Offline
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    Caroline Middlebrook
    wrote on last edited by
    #1931

    why is there so little racing on atm? 3 meetings yesterday and only 2 today? Seems low...

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  • John FolanJ Offline
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    John Folan
    wrote on last edited by
    #1932

    Classic Trobs: Trob any between 3.5-9 as close to the off as you can. Avoid Heavy Ground.

    These are really slow at the moment. Struggling to find a decent dob/trob strategy on the software that provides enough selections. I want the moon on a stick i do.

    0_1669025072699_Trobs.JPG

    Read the first post on both threads.

    Horse Trading Resources
    https://forum.betfairtradingcommunity.com/topic/1111/john-s-horse-trading-resources

    BfBotmanager
    https://forum.betfairtradingcommunity.com/topic/2915/bfbotmanager-automation-discussion

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  • John FolanJ Offline
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    John Folan
    wrote on last edited by
    #1933

    Classic Trobs: Trob any between 3.5-9 as close to the off as you can. Avoid Heavy Ground.
    0_1668933802672_Trobs.JPG

    Read the first post on both threads.

    Horse Trading Resources
    https://forum.betfairtradingcommunity.com/topic/1111/john-s-horse-trading-resources

    BfBotmanager
    https://forum.betfairtradingcommunity.com/topic/2915/bfbotmanager-automation-discussion

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  • John FolanJ Offline
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    John Folan
    replied to Nick Allan on last edited by John Folan
    #1934

    @nick-allan Here you go.

    Randomly the software had three matched yesterday and only two matched mine. I'm pretty sure it's just a pricing issue as they were all pretty borderline.
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    I'm going in at 10 seconds out and by price is increased by 2 ticks to ensure they get matched. Rainbow Sky I just checked on the software race card and there is no DSLR showing. My bot has a DSLR filter of 3-200 days in line with the software version 2 on the megathread. that is the only reason I can see for no bet being placed. I've literally automated the whole strategy on bfbot so all i have to do is turn the bot on. The conditions match the software perfectly. Any differences are now purely price. You might want to make sure your bot is refreshing at the fastest rate. I think if you turn on exchange streaming you can get a speed of 20ms with bet angel. Sadly I don't think you can filter conditions as well as Webb just won't add them.

    Oh and when you have sped Bet Angel up fire up a market that’s due to go off in the next 10 minutes and watch how fast the prices move. Mental and explains why a few will be off in their price or might or might not place. I don’t think it’s ever going to be an exact science. But as long as you are close that will be good enough.

    Read the first post on both threads.

    Horse Trading Resources
    https://forum.betfairtradingcommunity.com/topic/1111/john-s-horse-trading-resources

    BfBotmanager
    https://forum.betfairtradingcommunity.com/topic/2915/bfbotmanager-automation-discussion

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    Nick Allan
    replied to Nick Allan on last edited by
    #1935

    @nick-allan said in The BTC Horse Racing Thread:

    @john-folan said in The BTC Horse Racing Thread:

    Cracking day on the short odds lays. 4/4.

    errrr only fired on 2, one won one lost.......................

    the level of inconsitency of results can be so frustating, its normally an automation issue i know but i cant follow racing all day. Which races were they john so i can take a look at my logs

    these are the 2 i got

    0_1668860404893_ea4a39f8-713e-457b-a647-21ee4d87e500-image.png

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    Nick Allan
    replied to John Folan on last edited by
    #1936

    @john-folan said in The BTC Horse Racing Thread:

    Cracking day on the short odds lays. 4/4.

    errrr only fired on 2, one won one lost.......................

    the level of inconsitency of results can be so frustating, its normally an automation issue i know but i cant follow racing all day. Which races were they john so i can take a look at my logs

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    Nick Allan
    replied to John Folan on last edited by
    #1937

    @john-folan thanks john, means a lot

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  • John FolanJ Offline
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    John Folan
    wrote on last edited by
    #1938

    Classic Trobs: Trob any between 3.5-9 as close to the off as you can. Avoid Heavy Ground.
    0_1668843924073_Trobs.JPG

    Read the first post on both threads.

    Horse Trading Resources
    https://forum.betfairtradingcommunity.com/topic/1111/john-s-horse-trading-resources

    BfBotmanager
    https://forum.betfairtradingcommunity.com/topic/2915/bfbotmanager-automation-discussion

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  • AdamA Offline
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    Adam btc team
    replied to Nick Allan on last edited by
    #1939

    @nick-allan said in The BTC Horse Racing Thread:

    is there an option in individual trades to take saturdays out of results?

    Yes, there's a day of week strategy rule. Before you exclude it, you could also change the results presentation to "Day Of Week" to show the breakdown by day, so you can get an idea of the impact of different days.

    BTC's Website and Software Man

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    Robert H
    replied to John Folan on last edited by
    #1940

    @john-folan said in The BTC Horse Racing Thread:

    Cracking day on the short odds lays. 4/4.

    Nice. My bot only fired on 3 of them wonder why the other wasnt placed

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