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    Nick Allan
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    @ryan said in The BTC Football Trading Thread:

    @nick-allan said in The BTC Football Trading Thread:

    @ryan @ryan MY SHG strat is stuggyling too ryan, the pre game stats are good and inplay all good too as you say just not scoring goals. Some very strange results from leagues normally full of goals. Kind of thinking of close the laptop until after the WC and then you have the fall out of that comp so might not be trading until mid jan. I normally love the WC but this one is a pain!

    Yep that wouldn't be a bad shout, I am 100% of the belief that players don't want to miss it, especially those 30+ as it might be their last.

    It's really affecting things.

    of course the flip side of this equation is that there are some players playiong better as they are on the cusp of selection. Ive never seen a downturn as bad as this and ther only viarance i can give is the WC as we have never had a winter one before

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    Andy Donnelly
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    @ryan How much data do you want to see before decided to make a tweak such as discount a league? How long would the downturn need to go for you to scrap the strategy altogether?

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    That's really point about how we look at downturns.

    Fancy putting your Qs that you have around assessing downturns on here? (be as specific as possible and I'll put together an in-depth deep dive on it for you!).

    Founder of BTC - Pro Trader - Main Sports Tennis and Football

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    mick mcmahon
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    @james-rome said in The BTC Football Trading Thread:

    @nick-allan said in The BTC Football Trading Thread:

    @ryan @ryan MY SHG strat is stuggyling too ryan, the pre game stats are good and inplay all good too as you say just not scoring goals. Some very strange results from leagues normally full of goals. Kind of thinking of close the laptop until after the WC and then you have the fall out of that comp so might not be trading until mid jan. I normally love the WC but this one is a pain!

    i am the same tbf i was on man utd psg and ipswich this weekend some of this misses where mental.It will switch at some point where get some dier games and win of a massive deflection or something but i am thinking maybe stop atm to world cup seems strange atm

    Arsenal game yesterday finished 1-0, could've/should've been 3-3ish.

    Have the goal posts been made smaller 🤔?

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    @nick-allan said in The BTC Football Trading Thread:

    @ryan @ryan MY SHG strat is stuggyling too ryan, the pre game stats are good and inplay all good too as you say just not scoring goals. Some very strange results from leagues normally full of goals. Kind of thinking of close the laptop until after the WC and then you have the fall out of that comp so might not be trading until mid jan. I normally love the WC but this one is a pain!

    i am the same tbf i was on man utd psg and ipswich this weekend some of this misses where mental.It will switch at some point where get some dier games and win of a massive deflection or something but i am thinking maybe stop atm to world cup seems strange atm

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    @nick-segura Yeh I agree, this would be great to hear how the pros handle bad runs.

    One thing I find difficult is assessing whether my strategies are just suffering a bad hit of variance and therefore not to panic and make significant changes or alternatively when to realise my strategies need to be tweaked or worse still thrown out altogether.

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    Mr. Emmet Moorehouse
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    @ryan Well, yeah- it has been a bit bigger this time. That is true. I am basically flat after 3 weeks of trading, which is not great. I suspect it will pass though.

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    @ryan You know what, It would be interesting to hear about how you analyse downturns. Maybe you could share a specific example and talk through your analyses and conclusions. A lot of people have talked about their strategies struggling recently. Is it just a case of remaining consistent and trusting the strategy/process or should something change?

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    @mr-emmet-moorehouse yea variance is always there, it's something I am cautious of always it doesn't always be as big as this and across many leagues.

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    Founder of BTC - Pro Trader - Main Sports Tennis and Football

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    Is it unusual for there to be such a downturn? Shouldn't there be bad weeks or even bad months in an overall profitable strategy?

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    @nick-segura said in The BTC Football Trading Thread:

    @ryan Yes, I have noticed this too. I can't make sense of it. I had a look at the data I hold and most matches clearly seemed ideal pre and in play but no goals scored. Could it just be variance or the international break? This weekend's selections were good, lots of goals but I only traded the few that came up in other relevant filters. Please let me know if you spot something interesting.N

    Of course matey 😉 it is giving me time to look at building things to share with you guys.

    Founder of BTC - Pro Trader - Main Sports Tennis and Football

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    @nick-allan said in The BTC Football Trading Thread:

    @ryan @ryan MY SHG strat is stuggyling too ryan, the pre game stats are good and inplay all good too as you say just not scoring goals. Some very strange results from leagues normally full of goals. Kind of thinking of close the laptop until after the WC and then you have the fall out of that comp so might not be trading until mid jan. I normally love the WC but this one is a pain!

    Yep that wouldn't be a bad shout, I am 100% of the belief that players don't want to miss it, especially those 30+ as it might be their last.

    It's really affecting things.

    Founder of BTC - Pro Trader - Main Sports Tennis and Football

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    @ryan Yes, I have noticed this too. I can't make sense of it. I had a look at the data I hold and most matches clearly seemed ideal pre and in play but no goals scored. Could it just be variance or the international break? This weekend's selections were good, lots of goals but I only traded the few that came up in other relevant filters. Please let me know if you spot something interesting.N

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    @ryan @ryan MY SHG strat is stuggyling too ryan, the pre game stats are good and inplay all good too as you say just not scoring goals. Some very strange results from leagues normally full of goals. Kind of thinking of close the laptop until after the WC and then you have the fall out of that comp so might not be trading until mid jan. I normally love the WC but this one is a pain!

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    @nick-segura said in The BTC Football Trading Thread:

    @Ryan Have you stopped sharing selections for LCS at HT? I can't see any posts from you. Has it been struggling so bad that you stopped sharing about it. I have been away since the international break. N

    I've stopped them at the moment as I might have a slight tweak to them, they've not been doing as well as they used too.

    There's been a lot of data in play with them I am working through, the shots, corners and everything is there - just the main thing... goals is not.

    Founder of BTC - Pro Trader - Main Sports Tennis and Football

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    @james-rome been ave weekend for me Friday +4, sat -8, today +3 at the moment but have 3 trades open . could be scarcth, hoping for a small profit

    some great strartegies who i can always count on have been poor, either no goals for hot stats or buckets full for cold

    u3.5 went from 5+ to -1 over the weekend

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    @alastair-todd said in The BTC Football Trading Thread:

    Rapidly shaping up to be the single worst day I've had trading.

    Norway, Italy and Liverpool turned me over today - let's hope that the Belgians can come up with the goods otherwise the laptop is going out the window.

    Glad to hear i had a bad day was +6 points but 2 bets let me down so -1 now bastard

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    Rapidly shaping up to be the single worst day I've had trading.

    Norway, Italy and Liverpool turned me over today - let's hope that the Belgians can come up with the goods otherwise the laptop is going out the window.

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    @richard-latimer said in The BTC Football Trading Thread:

    @richard-latimer said in The BTC Football Trading Thread:

    I missed Viking but I'm going to try and get in 2nd half @ 6.2

    Bugger. Why couldn't I miss it properly😅 ffs?!

    It got me as well

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    @richard-latimer said in The BTC Football Trading Thread:

    I missed Viking but I'm going to try and get in 2nd half @ 6.2

    Bugger. Why couldn't I miss it properly😅 ffs?!

    Trading Spreadsheet linked below
    https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fi/3gnk1vku1krkoyfcq37y6/Trading-Bible.xlsx?rlkey=01eqhp8u73s61iy2s814sqfll&dl=0

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