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The BTC Horse Racing Thread

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  • MartinM Offline
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    Martin btc team
    wrote on last edited by
    #2141

    @Nick-Allan @John-Folan what I mean is let's say you just wanted to place some horse bets for the day at once, what time would be the best to do that do you think?

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    @nick-allan said in The BTC Horse Racing Thread:

    @john-folan said in The BTC Horse Racing Thread:

    @nick-allan said in The BTC Horse Racing Thread:

    @martin i scalp horse races and last 5 mins is when markets really move but not sure that best for prices but for liquidy you can go from 150K to 450K in a min

    Do you find that prices near the off tend to revert to where they were about 10 minutes out? Seems to happen a lot I think.

    erm difficult to say i do tend to scalp small movements with normally 1 or 2 runners but on the whole those with shorters prices do john yes, dont know about longer priced runners dont tend to scalp anything over 7.5. I persoanlly prefer to get early morning prices on horses 15 and over

    I normally only scalp shorter odds favourites so it might just be a trend there. I’ve tried scalping longer priced horses but I invariably f**k it up. Get a great income off of the favourites so I just stay there.

    Read the first post on both threads.

    Horse Trading Resources
    https://forum.betfairtradingcommunity.com/topic/1111/john-s-horse-trading-resources

    BfBotmanager
    https://forum.betfairtradingcommunity.com/topic/2915/bfbotmanager-automation-discussion

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    Nick Allan
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    @john-folan said in The BTC Horse Racing Thread:

    @nick-allan said in The BTC Horse Racing Thread:

    @martin i scalp horse races and last 5 mins is when markets really move but not sure that best for prices but for liquidy you can go from 150K to 450K in a min

    Do you find that prices near the off tend to revert to where they were about 10 minutes out? Seems to happen a lot I think.

    erm difficult to say i do tend to scalp small movements with normally 1 or 2 runners but on the whole those with shorters prices do john yes, dont know about longer priced runners dont tend to scalp anything over 7.5. I persoanlly prefer to get early morning prices on horses 15 and over

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    replied to Nick Allan on last edited by
    #2144

    @nick-allan said in The BTC Horse Racing Thread:

    @martin i scalp horse races and last 5 mins is when markets really move but not sure that best for prices but for liquidy you can go from 150K to 450K in a min

    Do you find that prices near the off tend to revert to where they were about 10 minutes out? Seems to happen a lot I think.

    Read the first post on both threads.

    Horse Trading Resources
    https://forum.betfairtradingcommunity.com/topic/1111/john-s-horse-trading-resources

    BfBotmanager
    https://forum.betfairtradingcommunity.com/topic/2915/bfbotmanager-automation-discussion

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    replied to Martin on last edited by
    #2145

    @martin i scalp horse races and last 5 mins is when markets really move but not sure that best for prices but for liquidy you can go from 150K to 450K in a min

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    replied to Martin on last edited by
    #2146

    @martin said in The BTC Horse Racing Thread:

    @john-folan and anyone else who sees this, what time would you say in general the horse markets firm up liquidity wise on UK racing in the morning? I'm thinking around 11/12am but wondering what the Horse guys think!

    Depends on the meeting and how much you want to get matched really. Probably an hour before the race for my purposes.

    Read the first post on both threads.

    Horse Trading Resources
    https://forum.betfairtradingcommunity.com/topic/1111/john-s-horse-trading-resources

    BfBotmanager
    https://forum.betfairtradingcommunity.com/topic/2915/bfbotmanager-automation-discussion

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  • MartinM Offline
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    Martin btc team
    replied to John Folan on last edited by
    #2147

    @john-folan and anyone else who sees this, what time would you say in general the horse markets firm up liquidity wise on UK racing in the morning? I'm thinking around 11/12am but wondering what the Horse guys think!

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  • John FolanJ Offline
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    #2148

    Classic Trobs: Trob any between 3.5-9 as close to the off as you can. Avoid Heavy Ground.

    0_1664875562105_Trobs.JPG

    Read the first post on both threads.

    Horse Trading Resources
    https://forum.betfairtradingcommunity.com/topic/1111/john-s-horse-trading-resources

    BfBotmanager
    https://forum.betfairtradingcommunity.com/topic/2915/bfbotmanager-automation-discussion

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  • John FolanJ Offline
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    John Folan
    replied to Adam on last edited by
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    @adam said in The BTC Horse Racing Thread:

    @john-folan said in The BTC Horse Racing Thread:

    Anyone else looking at the course characteristics in the software as a filter? I am thinking that it is probably more reliable than course filters as there is a much bigger dataset

    I think this is a good idea in combination with pace and going. "Galloping" tracks suit longer striding horses that like to, well, gallop, without turning sharply. Sharp courses suit the more nimble horses. "Stiff" courses can knacker the horse out due to the rises, especially when the going is soft.

    Glad you agree there. It makes a different in a fair few strategies. Nice datasets as well.

    Read the first post on both threads.

    Horse Trading Resources
    https://forum.betfairtradingcommunity.com/topic/1111/john-s-horse-trading-resources

    BfBotmanager
    https://forum.betfairtradingcommunity.com/topic/2915/bfbotmanager-automation-discussion

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  • AdamA Offline
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    Adam btc team
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    @john-folan said in The BTC Horse Racing Thread:

    Anyone else looking at the course characteristics in the software as a filter? I am thinking that it is probably more reliable than course filters as there is a much bigger dataset

    I think this is a good idea in combination with pace and going. "Galloping" tracks suit longer striding horses that like to, well, gallop, without turning sharply. Sharp courses suit the more nimble horses. "Stiff" courses can knacker the horse out due to the rises, especially when the going is soft.

    BTC's Website and Software Man

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    John Folan
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    #2151

    Classic Trobs: Trob any between 3.5-9 as close to the off as you can. Avoid Heavy Ground.
    0_1664609141467_Trob.JPG

    Read the first post on both threads.

    Horse Trading Resources
    https://forum.betfairtradingcommunity.com/topic/1111/john-s-horse-trading-resources

    BfBotmanager
    https://forum.betfairtradingcommunity.com/topic/2915/bfbotmanager-automation-discussion

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  • John FolanJ Offline
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    John Folan
    wrote on last edited by
    #2152

    Classic Trobs: Trob any between 3.5-9 as close to the off as you can. Avoid Heavy Ground.
    0_1664530509579_Trob.JPG

    Read the first post on both threads.

    Horse Trading Resources
    https://forum.betfairtradingcommunity.com/topic/1111/john-s-horse-trading-resources

    BfBotmanager
    https://forum.betfairtradingcommunity.com/topic/2915/bfbotmanager-automation-discussion

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  • John FolanJ Offline
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    John Folan
    wrote on last edited by
    #2153

    Anyone else looking at the course characteristics in the software as a filter? I am thinking that it is probably more reliable than course filters as there is a much bigger dataset

    Read the first post on both threads.

    Horse Trading Resources
    https://forum.betfairtradingcommunity.com/topic/1111/john-s-horse-trading-resources

    BfBotmanager
    https://forum.betfairtradingcommunity.com/topic/2915/bfbotmanager-automation-discussion

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  • John FolanJ Offline
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    John Folan
    wrote on last edited by
    #2154

    Nothing from me today but a little update and a new strategy in the megathread

    Read the first post on both threads.

    Horse Trading Resources
    https://forum.betfairtradingcommunity.com/topic/1111/john-s-horse-trading-resources

    BfBotmanager
    https://forum.betfairtradingcommunity.com/topic/2915/bfbotmanager-automation-discussion

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  • ? Offline
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    A Former User
    wrote on last edited by
    #2155

    Hi Jon I've just started following your back maiden favs strategy, I've noticed last night and this morning that in the 1.00 and 1.35 at Nottingham two different selections were posted, posted posiedon Prince, yesterday , and tephi this morning and the same in the 1.35 , also there's a 20/1 outsider in the 2.00 at bellewstown, can you tell me how to play these do I go with the last named selections or just back the unnamed fav in the the advised races. Many thanks.

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  • John FolanJ Offline
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    John Folan
    wrote on last edited by
    #2156

    Classic Trobs: Trob any between 3.5-9 as close to the off as you can. Avoid Heavy Ground.
    0_1664269310097_Trob.JPG

    Read the first post on both threads.

    Horse Trading Resources
    https://forum.betfairtradingcommunity.com/topic/1111/john-s-horse-trading-resources

    BfBotmanager
    https://forum.betfairtradingcommunity.com/topic/2915/bfbotmanager-automation-discussion

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  • ? Offline
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    A Former User
    replied to A Former User on last edited by
    #2157

    @jonathan-jones Thanks Jonathan

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  • ? Offline
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    A Former User
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    #2158

    @ian-wylie Will be Wine i think. I dont get anything like that on windows. Did have a few issues with fairbot but most resolved after swapping to the streaming api. I have never seen freezing or anything like that.

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  • John FolanJ Offline
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    John Folan
    wrote on last edited by
    #2159

    Was too short. Looks like it did nothing

    Read the first post on both threads.

    Horse Trading Resources
    https://forum.betfairtradingcommunity.com/topic/1111/john-s-horse-trading-resources

    BfBotmanager
    https://forum.betfairtradingcommunity.com/topic/2915/bfbotmanager-automation-discussion

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  • John FolanJ Offline
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    John Folan
    wrote on last edited by
    #2160

    A day like yesterday would be nice.

    Classic Trobs: Trob any between 3.5-9 as close to the off as you can. Avoid Heavy Ground.
    0_1664097952668_Trob.JPG

    Read the first post on both threads.

    Horse Trading Resources
    https://forum.betfairtradingcommunity.com/topic/1111/john-s-horse-trading-resources

    BfBotmanager
    https://forum.betfairtradingcommunity.com/topic/2915/bfbotmanager-automation-discussion

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