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Horse Racing Strategies Megathread

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  • John FolanJ Offline
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    John Folan
    replied to Martin on last edited by
    #1041

    @martin
    Revised Flat Pace. Less Filters overall and no course filters(although I am looking at you Goodwood).
    0_1664356865192_Flat Pace.json
    0_1664356845315_FP1.JPG
    0_1664356851018_FP2.JPG

    Read the first post on both threads.

    Horse Trading Resources
    https://forum.betfairtradingcommunity.com/topic/1111/john-s-horse-trading-resources

    BfBotmanager
    https://forum.betfairtradingcommunity.com/topic/2915/bfbotmanager-automation-discussion

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    @martin

    Updated Short Odds Lays.
    0_1664356513942_ShortOddsLays.json

    0_1664356529621_SOL1.JPG

    Read the first post on both threads.

    Horse Trading Resources
    https://forum.betfairtradingcommunity.com/topic/1111/john-s-horse-trading-resources

    BfBotmanager
    https://forum.betfairtradingcommunity.com/topic/2915/bfbotmanager-automation-discussion

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    Nick Allan
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    #1043

    @john-folan ah yes ive been meaning to look into this, cheers john

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    #1044

    @martin said in ***Horse Racing Shared Strategies Megathread + Downloads***:

    @john-folan can you upload the update?

    Will start to tomorrow. 😀

    Read the first post on both threads.

    Horse Trading Resources
    https://forum.betfairtradingcommunity.com/topic/1111/john-s-horse-trading-resources

    BfBotmanager
    https://forum.betfairtradingcommunity.com/topic/2915/bfbotmanager-automation-discussion

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    @nick-allan said in ***Horse Racing Shared Strategies Megathread + Downloads***:

    @john-folan whats maria staking?

    http://web.archive.org/web/20080731055615/http://www.expertbettingadvice.co.uk/forum/thread18432.html

    The legend…

    Read the first post on both threads.

    Horse Trading Resources
    https://forum.betfairtradingcommunity.com/topic/1111/john-s-horse-trading-resources

    BfBotmanager
    https://forum.betfairtradingcommunity.com/topic/2915/bfbotmanager-automation-discussion

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    @john-folan whats maria staking?

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    Nick Allan
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    #1047

    @martin ah i see thanks martin

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    Martin btc team
    replied to John Folan on last edited by
    #1048

    @john-folan can you upload the update?

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    Martin btc team
    replied to Nick Allan on last edited by
    #1049

    @nick-allan would think they are the stake you inputted when creating the strategy, may be wrong

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    Nick Allan
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    #1050

    Quick question, on the cashflow part of the strategy builder are they results to £10 stakes?

    0_1664270309253_d3cf542b-ec64-4571-8618-e5106c812b7a-image.png

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  • Angus MacleodA Offline
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    #1051

    @John-Folan Cracking stuff mate 👍 tweaking things as you go

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  • John FolanJ Offline
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    #1052

    Had a complete rework of my flat pace as I’m pretty sure I had over filtered a profitable set of base filters. I had. Massively. Going to forward test for a bit then repost.

    Also the lay the beaten favourite I have been doing to a liability is working lovely. So will repost on the 1st of next month after 2 months solid live testing. I’m also looking at the 1.01 to 11 odds range for some Maria staking. I’ve downloaded all the individual results and will apply Maria staking to it on flat stakes and see what it looks like. If it worked for her hey?

    I’ve also added in some Irish racing to my short odd lays as they continue their recovery from last month. Again will repost early next month.

    Slow Horses is better in the winter but nice to see it is ticking along slowly in the summer months.

    Read the first post on both threads.

    Horse Trading Resources
    https://forum.betfairtradingcommunity.com/topic/1111/john-s-horse-trading-resources

    BfBotmanager
    https://forum.betfairtradingcommunity.com/topic/2915/bfbotmanager-automation-discussion

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    @nick-allan said in ***Horse Racing Shared Strategies Megathread + Downloads***:

    General question to all members ………………I notice there isn't a lot of DOB strategies that are shared and considering that it's the most popular back to lay Strategy I’m quite surprised. I know that John Forlan has a TROBS and DOBs spreadsheet that he very kindly shares in the BTC horses thread on the forum, but I just wonder if anyone was testing any DOB strategies and if they are doing well at all? And if they are doing well would they consider sharing them so I can test them myself?

    Apart from Slow Horses I have struggled to get a decent dob/trob strategy going. I expect this to change once we get into speed ratings being added in the future. I’ve found basic laying the best thing here. The software has been great for that.

    Read the first post on both threads.

    Horse Trading Resources
    https://forum.betfairtradingcommunity.com/topic/1111/john-s-horse-trading-resources

    BfBotmanager
    https://forum.betfairtradingcommunity.com/topic/2915/bfbotmanager-automation-discussion

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    @nick-allan A problem is that although back testing might record that an inplay price has been reached. In reality that doesn't mean that you would have been matched and got out of your trade. Especially on higher priced runners and the more people trying to get out at the same "time and price" lowers the chances. Obviously all depends on the quality/liquidity of that market and your stake size.

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    General question to all members ………………I notice there isn't a lot of DOB strategies that are shared and considering that it's the most popular back to lay Strategy I’m quite surprised. I know that John Forlan has a TROBS and DOBs spreadsheet that he very kindly shares in the BTC horses thread on the forum, but I just wonder if anyone was testing any DOB strategies and if they are doing well at all? And if they are doing well would they consider sharing them so I can test them myself?

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    @martin I had a thought about your back the favourite strategy- have you, or any of the other members, perhaps looked to trade the results as opposed to backing them? In particular I had an idea about perhaps trading them as Dobs? as opposed to backing them? One of the things that I've notice from a few that I've seen trading in play is that they might not have won but they've certainly halved in price in play. Has any members perhaps looked at dobbing this strategy?

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    #1057

    @martin said in ***Horse Racing Shared Strategies Megathread + Downloads***:

    Updated with results up until 15th September, removed some of the filters that did not prove profitable during forward testing, so if there are any you want just ask and I can send you the downloads for them.

    yeah quite a few of the strategies that I've been testing didn't perform that well although I have very different results for the Wayne pace strategy but I think a lot of that to do with the time that the bet is place as I tend to do them in the morning when I think prices are better than perhaps BSP which might be when forward testing takes the price?

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  • MartinM Offline
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    Martin btc team
    wrote on last edited by
    #1058

    Updated with results up until 15th September, removed some of the filters that did not prove profitable during forward testing, so if there are any you want just ask and I can send you the downloads for them.

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  • MartinM Offline
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    replied to Nick Allan on last edited by
    #1059

    @nick-allan said in ***Horse Racing Shared Strategies Megathread + Downloads***:

    @martin so how do i do that? when you get the preset startegy up do you then just put the dates of 1-31 august? and it then shows just that months results?

    at the bottom of the results it breaks them down into monthly ones, scroll to the bottom after running the backtesting search

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    Martin btc team
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    @john-folan said in ***Horse Racing Shared Strategies Megathread + Downloads***:

    @nick-allan said in ***Horse Racing Shared Strategies Megathread + Downloads***:

    @martin so how do i do that? when you get the preset startegy up do you then just put the dates of 1-31 august? and it then shows just that months results?

    Just run it mate. Augusts results are in the monthly breakdown.

    top man!

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