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The BTC Horse Racing Thread

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  • ? Offline
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    A Former User
    wrote on last edited by A Former User
    #2521

    Is the horse software offline? I cant get mine to load anything?
    Ive just submitted a support ticket

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  • John FolanJ Offline
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    #2522

    @john-folan said in The BTC Horse Racing Thread:

    Today's

    Classic Trobs: Dob, Trob or Win if odds are between 3.5-9
    0_1656228324378_Trobs.JPG

    Flat Pace. Back to Win if between 2.0-25.0. 4-14 Runners only. Avoid Soft, Heavy and Firm Going
    0_1656228347573_Flat Pace.JPG

    A couple of points on the Flat Pace backs and a one point loss on the trobs.

    Read the first post on both threads.

    Horse Trading Resources
    https://forum.betfairtradingcommunity.com/topic/1111/john-s-horse-trading-resources

    BfBotmanager
    https://forum.betfairtradingcommunity.com/topic/2915/bfbotmanager-automation-discussion

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    #2523

    Today's

    Classic Trobs: Dob, Trob or Win if odds are between 3.5-9
    0_1656228324378_Trobs.JPG

    Flat Pace. Back to Win if between 2.0-25.0. 4-14 Runners only. Avoid Soft, Heavy and Firm Going
    0_1656228347573_Flat Pace.JPG

    Read the first post on both threads.

    Horse Trading Resources
    https://forum.betfairtradingcommunity.com/topic/1111/john-s-horse-trading-resources

    BfBotmanager
    https://forum.betfairtradingcommunity.com/topic/2915/bfbotmanager-automation-discussion

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    John Folan
    replied to John Folan on last edited by
    #2524

    @john-folan said in The BTC Horse Racing Thread:

    Bit crap on the Pace front yesterday and no match on the trob. Here are todays

    Classic Trobs: Dob, Trob or Win if odds are between 3.5-9
    0_1656060804970_Trobs.JPG

    Flat Pace. Back to Win if between 2.0-25.0. 4-14 Runners only. Avoid Soft, Heavy and Firm Going
    0_1656060823204_Flat Pace.JPG

    I hate Saturday

    Read the first post on both threads.

    Horse Trading Resources
    https://forum.betfairtradingcommunity.com/topic/1111/john-s-horse-trading-resources

    BfBotmanager
    https://forum.betfairtradingcommunity.com/topic/2915/bfbotmanager-automation-discussion

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  • John FolanJ Offline
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    replied to Martin on last edited by
    #2525

    @martin have to say the flat pace and short odds lay are my favourite two so far. Flat pace can be a bit swingy(as most backing systems are) but a win or two at half decent odds puts it back on track.

    Two lovely systems from the Horse Racing Software and either fully automated or just need the selections loading in. #thelazytrader 🤣

    Read the first post on both threads.

    Horse Trading Resources
    https://forum.betfairtradingcommunity.com/topic/1111/john-s-horse-trading-resources

    BfBotmanager
    https://forum.betfairtradingcommunity.com/topic/2915/bfbotmanager-automation-discussion

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  • MartinM Offline
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    Martin btc team
    replied to John Folan on last edited by
    #2526

    @john-folan said in The BTC Horse Racing Thread:

    @martin said in The BTC Horse Racing Thread:

    @john-folan how did you get on?

    Two points trobbing and 4 points pace profit. So annoyed about the one I missed at 12’s the other day but I’ve sorted that now. Had another 3.5 points on the short odds lays as well. So cracking day all round

    amazing!

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    wrote on last edited by
    #2527

    Also for anyone wondering why I like the 11 minutes out time to enter on the flat pace backs Yesterdays winner beat BSP by 2.01 . The other two horses in that race beat their BSP by 1.0 and 9.0 respectively. The other two had one level with BSP and one beating it's BSP by 0.02. So you can see what I am trying to do. Obviously they are utterly smashing the bookies SP.

    Will be playing around with entry points on the other stuff I am doing as well.

    Read the first post on both threads.

    Horse Trading Resources
    https://forum.betfairtradingcommunity.com/topic/1111/john-s-horse-trading-resources

    BfBotmanager
    https://forum.betfairtradingcommunity.com/topic/2915/bfbotmanager-automation-discussion

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  • John FolanJ Offline
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    John Folan
    wrote on last edited by
    #2528

    Only a bit of Flat Place action today. Got the short odds lays bot turned on as well. Out most of the day as going to see The Book of Mormon for the second time. Taking Joshua(17) and my daughters boyfriend (22). Both who love South Park. Can't wait to see their faces at some of the humour 😂

    Flat Pace. Back to Win if between 2.0-25.0. 4-14 Runners only. Avoid Soft, Heavy and Firm Going
    0_1656146793882_Flat Pace.JPG

    Read the first post on both threads.

    Horse Trading Resources
    https://forum.betfairtradingcommunity.com/topic/1111/john-s-horse-trading-resources

    BfBotmanager
    https://forum.betfairtradingcommunity.com/topic/2915/bfbotmanager-automation-discussion

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  • John FolanJ Offline
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    John Folan
    replied to Martin on last edited by
    #2529

    @martin said in The BTC Horse Racing Thread:

    @john-folan how did you get on?

    Two points trobbing and 4 points pace profit. So annoyed about the one I missed at 12’s the other day but I’ve sorted that now. Had another 3.5 points on the short odds lays as well. So cracking day all round

    Read the first post on both threads.

    Horse Trading Resources
    https://forum.betfairtradingcommunity.com/topic/1111/john-s-horse-trading-resources

    BfBotmanager
    https://forum.betfairtradingcommunity.com/topic/2915/bfbotmanager-automation-discussion

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  • MartinM Offline
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    Martin btc team
    replied to John Folan on last edited by
    #2530

    @john-folan how did you get on?

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  • ? Offline
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    A Former User
    replied to John Folan on last edited by
    #2531

    @john-folan well done mate 👍🏻

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  • John FolanJ Offline
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    #2532

    @john-folan said in The BTC Horse Racing Thread:

    Bit crap on the Pace front yesterday and no match on the trob. Here are todays

    Classic Trobs: Dob, Trob or Win if odds are between 3.5-9
    0_1656060804970_Trobs.JPG

    Flat Pace. Back to Win if between 2.0-25.0. 4-14 Runners only. Avoid Soft, Heavy and Firm Going
    0_1656060823204_Flat Pace.JPG

    Decent day today 😃

    Read the first post on both threads.

    Horse Trading Resources
    https://forum.betfairtradingcommunity.com/topic/1111/john-s-horse-trading-resources

    BfBotmanager
    https://forum.betfairtradingcommunity.com/topic/2915/bfbotmanager-automation-discussion

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  • John FolanJ Offline
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    John Folan
    wrote on last edited by
    #2533

    Bit crap on the Pace front yesterday and no match on the trob. Here are todays

    Classic Trobs: Dob, Trob or Win if odds are between 3.5-9
    0_1656060804970_Trobs.JPG

    Flat Pace. Back to Win if between 2.0-25.0. 4-14 Runners only. Avoid Soft, Heavy and Firm Going
    0_1656060823204_Flat Pace.JPG

    Read the first post on both threads.

    Horse Trading Resources
    https://forum.betfairtradingcommunity.com/topic/1111/john-s-horse-trading-resources

    BfBotmanager
    https://forum.betfairtradingcommunity.com/topic/2915/bfbotmanager-automation-discussion

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  • John FolanJ Offline
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    John Folan
    wrote on last edited by
    #2534

    Classic Trobs: Dob, Trob or Win if odds are between 3.5-9
    0_1655981709632_Trobs.JPG

    Flat Pace. Back to Win if between 2.0-25.0. 4-14 Runners only. Avoid Soft, Heavy and Firm Going
    0_1655981847993_Flat Pace.JPG

    Read the first post on both threads.

    Horse Trading Resources
    https://forum.betfairtradingcommunity.com/topic/1111/john-s-horse-trading-resources

    BfBotmanager
    https://forum.betfairtradingcommunity.com/topic/2915/bfbotmanager-automation-discussion

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  • N Offline
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    Nick Terracciano
    replied to John Folan on last edited by
    #2535

    @john-folan cheers

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  • John FolanJ Offline
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    John Folan
    replied to A Former User on last edited by
    #2536

    @keith I make you right. Going to be a lot of tweaking going forward to get results matching. Good learning curve though. So Pace showed a loss yesterday even though it should have been a 5 point profit

    Read the first post on both threads.

    Horse Trading Resources
    https://forum.betfairtradingcommunity.com/topic/1111/john-s-horse-trading-resources

    BfBotmanager
    https://forum.betfairtradingcommunity.com/topic/2915/bfbotmanager-automation-discussion

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  • ? Offline
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    A Former User
    replied to John Folan on last edited by
    #2537

    @john-folan makes sense to me mate. Yes better to let BFBM do it at the off time 👍🏻

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  • John FolanJ Offline
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    John Folan
    wrote on last edited by
    #2538

    I have an interesting conundrum. On the Flat Pace Backs, it is more profitable to restrict runner numbers between 4-14 per race. It's obvious as you can see below. Now I ran the races off yesterday and it missed a horse called Invincibly in the 14:55 at Carlisle as it had 17 runners in that race so didn't show in the software. Obviously it then won at a price of 11.5(ffs). It also shows in the software today as there were three non runners so it hit 14 the maximum.

    So I am thinking I do the upcoming Qualifiers without the odds restrictions. Load them into bfbotmanager which will then restrict them based on runner numbers 11 minutes before the off when bets are placed. All I will need to do is keep two versions of the strategy. One with runners restricted that I will use to compare results and one to get the selections without the restrictions so that this doesn't happen that often apart from very late non runners. Make sense?

    0_1655981185073_Capture.JPG

    Read the first post on both threads.

    Horse Trading Resources
    https://forum.betfairtradingcommunity.com/topic/1111/john-s-horse-trading-resources

    BfBotmanager
    https://forum.betfairtradingcommunity.com/topic/2915/bfbotmanager-automation-discussion

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  • John FolanJ Offline
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    John Folan
    replied to John Folan on last edited by
    #2539

    @john-folan said in The BTC Horse Racing Thread:

    Flat Pace Backs. Back any between 2.0-25.0
    0_1655892228771_Flat Pace.JPG

    Zero Paced Dobs. Dob any over 20
    0_1655892250748_ZPD.JPG

    Poor day today on these. I’m ready for the LLR or 15 though so all good.

    Short odds lay bits done ok tho

    Read the first post on both threads.

    Horse Trading Resources
    https://forum.betfairtradingcommunity.com/topic/1111/john-s-horse-trading-resources

    BfBotmanager
    https://forum.betfairtradingcommunity.com/topic/2915/bfbotmanager-automation-discussion

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  • John FolanJ Offline
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    replied to Keith Driscoll on last edited by
    #2540

    @keith-driscoll said in The BTC Horse Racing Thread:

    @john-folan said in The BTC Horse Racing Thread:

    Struggling a bit with this lay the favourite thing. I did revert back to the Roger Kemp book and looking at distances and runner numbers over 80% on the relevant courses it does seem to be profitable. But. You would need to set it up for every course as the distances that are profitable tend to vary as do the runner numbers. I then ask the question. Can I be arsed?

    It's worth the effort for a number of tracks, as I showed in the past with Chester. For instance, find the AW track with the shortest run in, and the same system works over certain distances. 🙂 You can also group similar tracks, Chepstow, York, Newbury, Haydock, Doncaster, etc, all have very long run-ins.

    On a totally different variable, horses that travel a long way north, tend to be better class, than those travelling the same distance south when it comes to turf races. 😉

    Thank you to you and @Dan-MacKinnon . Won't give up yet and your tips are providing some progress. Was probably a bit fed up yesterday lol

    Read the first post on both threads.

    Horse Trading Resources
    https://forum.betfairtradingcommunity.com/topic/1111/john-s-horse-trading-resources

    BfBotmanager
    https://forum.betfairtradingcommunity.com/topic/2915/bfbotmanager-automation-discussion

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