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The BTC Horse Racing Thread

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  • John FolanJ Offline
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    John Folan
    wrote on last edited by
    #2661

    About break even yesterday. Would have been better but I missed a few winners on the short inrunning while I sorted the bot out. I am keeping score on everything I do so I can compare it to the software. It's matching quite nicely at the moment.

    No Trobs Today

    Slow Horses. Dob any over 5.0 as close to the off as possible.
    0_1652601515426_Slow Horses.JPG

    Zero Paced Dobs. Dob any over 10.0 as close to the off as possible.0_1652601528537_Zero Paced.JPG

    Short Inrunning. Place a lay bet at 3.1 for any horse between 3.1 to 100. Bet persistence to keep in play
    0_1652601550510_Short Inrunning.JPG

    Read the first post on both threads.

    Horse Trading Resources
    https://forum.betfairtradingcommunity.com/topic/1111/john-s-horse-trading-resources

    BfBotmanager
    https://forum.betfairtradingcommunity.com/topic/2915/bfbotmanager-automation-discussion

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  • John FolanJ Offline
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    John Folan
    wrote on last edited by
    #2662

    Interesting day. Took a while to get the short inrunning bot firing, but seems to be working fine now, thta was a mistake by me as I altered a different bot to fit and left a favourite condition in. Small losses on the Slow Horses and Zero Paced, but nothing outside the ordinairy. Everything else doing ok.

    Read the first post on both threads.

    Horse Trading Resources
    https://forum.betfairtradingcommunity.com/topic/1111/john-s-horse-trading-resources

    BfBotmanager
    https://forum.betfairtradingcommunity.com/topic/2915/bfbotmanager-automation-discussion

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  • John FolanJ Offline
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    John Folan
    wrote on last edited by
    #2663

    Just to make a point on the short inrunnings. It may look suicidal. BUT. Several will be knocked out by the initial odds filter and then a load more will not run in to the 3.1 for the trade to become active.

    A much smaller percentage will go on to be actual trades. I do like to scare people though 🤣

    Read the first post on both threads.

    Horse Trading Resources
    https://forum.betfairtradingcommunity.com/topic/1111/john-s-horse-trading-resources

    BfBotmanager
    https://forum.betfairtradingcommunity.com/topic/2915/bfbotmanager-automation-discussion

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  • John FolanJ Offline
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    John Folan
    wrote on last edited by John Folan
    #2664

    Today looks mental but a load will be knocked out on odds. I am now convinced that you will need a bot to manage your selections. I have a separate bank and different compounding levels for each strategy so things won't get out of control. I can then match the entry times to the horse software as well. This looks a lot to manage but with the right bot settings it really isn't. You have to look at this as your business and invest in the best tools you can afford to succeed. Once bfbotmanager get back to me on a variable I need, I will have fully automated the shortinrunning as well. Won't even need to import the selections. They will just need the bot turning on like the Short Odd Lays and Mr Driscoll's Favourite Backs.

    Trobs. Trob any 3.5-9 as close to the off as you can. Cracking start to the month on these.
    0_1652517829101_Trobs.JPG

    Slow Horses. Dob any over 5.0 as close to the off as possible.~
    0_1652517866741_Slow Horses.JPG

    Zero Paced Dobs. Dob any over 10.0 as close to the off as possible.
    0_1652517906419_Zero Paced.JPG

    Short Inrunning. Place a lay bet at 3.1 for any horse between 3.1 to 100. Bet persistence to keep in play
    0_1652517960397_Short Inrunning.JPG

    Read the first post on both threads.

    Horse Trading Resources
    https://forum.betfairtradingcommunity.com/topic/1111/john-s-horse-trading-resources

    BfBotmanager
    https://forum.betfairtradingcommunity.com/topic/2915/bfbotmanager-automation-discussion

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  • John FolanJ Offline
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    John Folan
    wrote on last edited by
    #2665

    0 on Slow Horses.
    -1 on Zero Paced Dobs(bot works tho)
    +3 on Classic Trobs
    +1 on Short odd Lays
    Storming day on the favourite backs.

    Short inrunning goes live tomorrow 😄.

    Read the first post on both threads.

    Horse Trading Resources
    https://forum.betfairtradingcommunity.com/topic/1111/john-s-horse-trading-resources

    BfBotmanager
    https://forum.betfairtradingcommunity.com/topic/2915/bfbotmanager-automation-discussion

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  • ? Offline
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    A Former User
    replied to John Folan on last edited by
    #2666

    @john-folan said in The BTC Horse Racing Thread:

    @keith This is what I have so far. It's not exact as I don't want any horse involved that is already trading below 3.1 involved. So I stuck a BSP filter in. It won't be exact as we don't know the BSP but you get the point and it will only be a few out either way. I can get bfbot to do that filter so we should be good to go. Looks tidy tbh. Couple of race filters and no wins in the last 5 races and the jobs a good un. It is actually profitable with just the no wins in last 5 races on it's own.
    0_1652450545812_1.JPG
    0_1652450551961_2.JPG
    0_1652450557824_3.JPG

    and the settings file
    0_1652450572970_Short Inrunning.json

    This is fantastic John thanks mate I'll take a look when I'm back at my PC, I appreciate the work you've put in 👍🏻

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  • John FolanJ Offline
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    John Folan
    replied to A Former User on last edited by John Folan
    #2667

    @keith This is what I have so far. It's not exact as I don't want any horse involved that is already trading below 3.1 involved. So I stuck a BSP filter in. It won't be exact as we don't know the BSP but you get the point and it will only be a few out either way. I can get bfbot to do that filter so we should be good to go. Looks tidy tbh. Couple of race filters and no wins in the last 5 races and the jobs a good un. It is actually profitable with just the no wins in last 5 races on it's own. As mentioned we are looking to lay horses that trade lower but don't win.
    0_1652450545812_1.JPG
    0_1652450551961_2.JPG
    0_1652450557824_3.JPG

    and the settings file
    0_1652450572970_Short Inrunning.json

    Read the first post on both threads.

    Horse Trading Resources
    https://forum.betfairtradingcommunity.com/topic/1111/john-s-horse-trading-resources

    BfBotmanager
    https://forum.betfairtradingcommunity.com/topic/2915/bfbotmanager-automation-discussion

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  • ? Offline
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    A Former User
    replied to John Folan on last edited by
    #2668

    @john-folan said in The BTC Horse Racing Thread:

    @john-folan said in The BTC Horse Racing Thread:

    @john-folan said in The BTC Horse Racing Thread:

    @keith taking a look at this laying short inrunning lark now. Opened a can of worms. Got some ideas though

    It’s profitable if you lay at 3.1. Below that not so much. Has to do with a resistance point at 3.0 I guess

    A couple of sensible filters and it looks like a 200 point plus a year strategy. Just need to check a few things. As BT always used to say. It’s good to talk 🤣

    Fantastic mate I'm glad it's profitable 😎👍🏻 haven't had chance to look myself yet but will do later.

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  • John FolanJ Offline
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    John Folan
    replied to John Folan on last edited by
    #2669

    @john-folan said in The BTC Horse Racing Thread:

    @john-folan said in The BTC Horse Racing Thread:

    @keith taking a look at this laying short inrunning lark now. Opened a can of worms. Got some ideas though

    It’s profitable if you lay at 3.1. Below that not so much. Has to do with a resistance point at 3.0 I guess

    A couple of sensible filters and it looks like a 200 point plus a year strategy. Just need to check a few things. As BT always used to say. It’s good to talk 🤣

    Read the first post on both threads.

    Horse Trading Resources
    https://forum.betfairtradingcommunity.com/topic/1111/john-s-horse-trading-resources

    BfBotmanager
    https://forum.betfairtradingcommunity.com/topic/2915/bfbotmanager-automation-discussion

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  • John FolanJ Offline
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    John Folan
    replied to Martin on last edited by
    #2670

    @martin said in The BTC Horse Racing Thread:

    @john-folan all my main lay strats are 3-10/11 so far

    I’ve seen that. Mad how there is value that high. Again I wouldn’t have looked without the software

    Read the first post on both threads.

    Horse Trading Resources
    https://forum.betfairtradingcommunity.com/topic/1111/john-s-horse-trading-resources

    BfBotmanager
    https://forum.betfairtradingcommunity.com/topic/2915/bfbotmanager-automation-discussion

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  • MartinM Offline
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    Martin btc team
    replied to John Folan on last edited by
    #2671

    @john-folan all my main lay strats are 3-10/11 so far

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  • John FolanJ Offline
    John FolanJ Offline
    John Folan
    replied to John Folan on last edited by
    #2672

    @john-folan said in The BTC Horse Racing Thread:

    @keith taking a look at this laying short inrunning lark now. Opened a can of worms. Got some ideas though

    It’s profitable if you lay at 3.1. Below that not so much. Has to do with a resistance point at 3.0 I guess

    Read the first post on both threads.

    Horse Trading Resources
    https://forum.betfairtradingcommunity.com/topic/1111/john-s-horse-trading-resources

    BfBotmanager
    https://forum.betfairtradingcommunity.com/topic/2915/bfbotmanager-automation-discussion

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  • John FolanJ Offline
    John FolanJ Offline
    John Folan
    replied to A Former User on last edited by
    #2673

    @keith taking a look at this laying short inrunning lark now. Opened a can of worms. Got some ideas though

    Read the first post on both threads.

    Horse Trading Resources
    https://forum.betfairtradingcommunity.com/topic/1111/john-s-horse-trading-resources

    BfBotmanager
    https://forum.betfairtradingcommunity.com/topic/2915/bfbotmanager-automation-discussion

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  • John FolanJ Offline
    John FolanJ Offline
    John Folan
    wrote on last edited by
    #2674

    Friday the 13th today 😂

    Loads today.

    Trobs. Trob any 3.5-9 anywhere near the off.
    0_1652437106176_Trobs.JPG

    Slow Horses. DOB any over 5 near the off.
    0_1652437127724_Slow Horses.JPG

    Zero Paced Dobs. Dob any over 10 near the off.
    0_1652437155528_Zero Paced.JPG

    Yes I am dobbing a load in the same race, but the stats don't lie. Obviously I will be crying like an Arsenal Fan if it all goes tits up today! NLIW!!!

    Read the first post on both threads.

    Horse Trading Resources
    https://forum.betfairtradingcommunity.com/topic/1111/john-s-horse-trading-resources

    BfBotmanager
    https://forum.betfairtradingcommunity.com/topic/2915/bfbotmanager-automation-discussion

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  • MartinM Offline
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    Martin btc team
    replied to John Folan on last edited by
    #2675

    @john-folan cool I've just made a strategy megathread so will add it

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  • John FolanJ Offline
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    John Folan
    replied to Martin on last edited by
    #2676

    @martin said in The BTC Horse Racing Thread:

    @john-folan zero horses is straight dob yeah?

    Yep 😃

    Read the first post on both threads.

    Horse Trading Resources
    https://forum.betfairtradingcommunity.com/topic/1111/john-s-horse-trading-resources

    BfBotmanager
    https://forum.betfairtradingcommunity.com/topic/2915/bfbotmanager-automation-discussion

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  • MartinM Offline
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    Martin btc team
    replied to John Folan on last edited by
    #2677

    @john-folan zero horses is straight dob yeah?

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  • John FolanJ Offline
    John FolanJ Offline
    John Folan
    replied to Dan MacKinnon on last edited by
    #2678

    @dan-mackinnon said in The BTC Horse Racing Thread:

    @martin said in The BTC Horse Racing Thread:

    @dan-mackinnon lol I'm gonna ban chat of him and other rival services when we go full release aren't I 😄 because I know for sure as hell they don't allow it the other way around!

    Haha! Probably for the best, there’ll be fewer expletives on here if you did. The man is a living example of money cannot buy you love/ happiness.

    At my old job I worked for a client that dealt with property developers and the majority of them are your Caan Berry/ Peter Webb type. They love to tell you how they’ve overcome childhood adversity to become a “success”, but every story was the same. I’ve never attended the school of hard knocks but it’s safe to say the first lesson must be tell as many people your X factor sob story as you can.

    That’s my rant over. Anyone can see from day 1 your competitors are nowhere near what BTC have to offer. It’s so far apart it’s in another universe.

    My childhood was a mess. My dad had one leg and my mum became a man. I didn’t go to school because I couldn’t afford clothes. Dinner breakfast and lunch was a tin of beans.

    But all that changed it helped me into being a better trader and now I’m rich. I can show you how to do this too. My guide is normally £199.99 but if you order today using the code “youmug” you can have this amazing three page document for £129.99!!

    Read the first post on both threads.

    Horse Trading Resources
    https://forum.betfairtradingcommunity.com/topic/1111/john-s-horse-trading-resources

    BfBotmanager
    https://forum.betfairtradingcommunity.com/topic/2915/bfbotmanager-automation-discussion

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  • John FolanJ Offline
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    John Folan
    replied to Martin on last edited by
    #2679

    @martin said in The BTC Horse Racing Thread:

    @dan-mackinnon lol I'm gonna ban chat of him and other rival services when we go full release aren't I 😄 because I know for sure as hell they don't allow it the other way around!

    Except when we say how much better your stuff is 😉

    Read the first post on both threads.

    Horse Trading Resources
    https://forum.betfairtradingcommunity.com/topic/1111/john-s-horse-trading-resources

    BfBotmanager
    https://forum.betfairtradingcommunity.com/topic/2915/bfbotmanager-automation-discussion

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  • D Offline
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    Dan MacKinnon
    replied to Martin on last edited by
    #2680

    @martin said in The BTC Horse Racing Thread:

    @dan-mackinnon lol I'm gonna ban chat of him and other rival services when we go full release aren't I 😄 because I know for sure as hell they don't allow it the other way around!

    Haha! Probably for the best, there’ll be fewer expletives on here if you did. The man is a living example of money cannot buy you love/ happiness.

    At my old job I worked for a client that dealt with property developers and the majority of them are your Caan Berry/ Peter Webb type. They love to tell you how they’ve overcome childhood adversity to become a “success”, but every story was the same. I’ve never attended the school of hard knocks but it’s safe to say the first lesson must be tell as many people your X factor sob story as you can.

    That’s my rant over. Anyone can see from day 1 your competitors are nowhere near what BTC have to offer. It’s so far apart it’s in another universe.

    “Greed moves the goalposts” - Ryan Holiday

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