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Over 1.5 split stake . What after 70 min?

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    Question above. I am doing over 1.5, and it's REALLY frustrating when you cash out at 70 min and then, boom 2,3 goals. Do you guys cover LTD, over 0.5 or just leave it?

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    @john-folan said in Over 1.5 split stake . What after 70 min?:

    Tired legs and the right substitutes which are normally made after 65 minutes.

    Good point well presented

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    @dave-hayes said in Over 1.5 split stake . What after 70 min?:

    @keith-anderson said in Over 1.5 split stake . What after 70 min?:

    I don't cash out. Loads of goals scored after 70 minutes

    Good point this Chris, don't know why teams take until the 70th minute to go nuts on goals

    Tired legs and the right substitutes which are normally made after 65 minutes.

    Read the first post on both threads.

    Horse Trading Resources
    https://forum.betfairtradingcommunity.com/topic/1111/john-s-horse-trading-resources

    BfBotmanager
    https://forum.betfairtradingcommunity.com/topic/2915/bfbotmanager-automation-discussion

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    @keith-anderson said in Over 1.5 split stake . What after 70 min?:

    I don't cash out. Loads of goals scored after 70 minutes

    Good point this Chris, don't know why teams take until the 70th minute to go nuts on goals

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    @keith-anderson said in Over 1.5 split stake . What after 70 min?:

    I don't cash out. Loads of goals scored after 70 minutes.

    Strategy works lovely with the cashing out. That’s the whole point. Ffs can’t you read? 🤣

    Read the first post on both threads.

    Horse Trading Resources
    https://forum.betfairtradingcommunity.com/topic/1111/john-s-horse-trading-resources

    BfBotmanager
    https://forum.betfairtradingcommunity.com/topic/2915/bfbotmanager-automation-discussion

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    I don't cash out. Loads of goals scored after 70 minutes.

    le jeu avant tout

    Am Yisrael Chai

    When you got skin in the game, you stay in the game
    But you don’t get a win unless you play in the game...

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    @eren-baris It varies month to month, it's a very profitable strategy when done right.

    Everybody here who uses it makes profit with it

    Founder of BTC - Pro Trader - Main Sports Tennis and Football

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    Take the loss and move on... Wins outweigh losses long term

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    @ivan1977uk said in Over 1.5 split stake . What after 70 min?:

    Question above. I am doing over 1.5, and it's REALLY frustrating when you cash out at 70 min and then, boom 2,3 goals. Do you guys cover LTD, over 0.5 or just leave it?

    Ivan, I have suffered from this myself and it is. But what I have learned is that protecting bank is important, instead of letting the trade run. The wins will out weigh the losses, I've have found and others will say similar, who are far more experienced than me.

    What has definitely helped is setting up my own filter, based around the criteria I like, because then you have entry and exit points, based on Pre Match, then once the game goes in play, you can see the action unfold, you can then choose if your entry point needs to be sooner.

    Hope this helps

    It is a huge learning curve, but being here is the right place to learn, no doubt about that.

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    @ryan After 100 Games and after 1 Month...

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    @eren-baris from what period?

    Founder of BTC - Pro Trader - Main Sports Tennis and Football

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    @ryan Can you tell how much profitable it is? Accepted after 100 Games and a basic stake of 10?

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    @ivan1977uk I take the loss and move on, always been the best way to use this strategy for me.

    Founder of BTC - Pro Trader - Main Sports Tennis and Football

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    @ken-paine Edit not showing. Last 2 lines should be
    H2H Ov Ft 0-0 % < = 10
    H2H Ov FT >1.5 % > = 70

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    @ryan Hi R, my frustrations were at the other end to Ivan1977 WRT >1.5s. Going crackers at 25 minute goals whwen I was waiting for 30 minutes to enter. So I looked to catch early goals a bit more. Made up a filter - as I mentioned on live vid - that is not dissimilar to yours in results, but looked to enter at about 1.35.
    Seems to be working so far but I'm onkly half way through any kind of survey results.

    H Score H1 % + H Conc. H1% >=60
    A Score H1% + A Conc. H1% >=60
    Ov MP >=10
    H2H Ov FT 0-0% <=10
    H2H Ov FT >1.5% >= 70

    Generally I go with 0% 0-0 and 100% >1.5 results , but look to get into market at 1.3/1.35 ish. Psychology is a small profit bears no profit and I don't get so wound up at missing out when I'm waiting to start at 30 minutes. Hit rate is showing > 80% maybe >85%. Time will tell .

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    I have tweaked, prodded, teased, tickled everything to this strategy and the way I set it out is the most profitable, most effective and most efficient way of trading this strategy.

    It's annoying yes when goals go in but that's usually because you are thinking shorter term like oh I missed that profit, well that profit wasn't ever really there and it gives you confirmation bias....

    What I mean there is you'll kid yourself and stay in them all remembering that one time when it worked. Which in the long run doesn't work and it will lead to problems.

    The strategy is simple and it works don't over complicate it.

    Founder of BTC - Pro Trader - Main Sports Tennis and Football

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    What you MUST do here is forget about the strategy as a whole, ask yourself if im doing a cover bet such as lcs or ltd is this trade value in itself, ie would this trade be a good strategy on its own. If it is then do it as it will cover some of the losses. What we dont want you to do is just do it because it avoids your fomo. We are always gonna have games that lose within our rules. We cannot win them all. Id suggest you go track this strategy and find out how many times this scenario happens, get a strike rate for this and then you can then know what type of odds youll need for this to work/what scorelines are good for this strat etc. Just please dont look into adding risk to a trade for sake of frustration. Each trade we ever place in any sense including all your split stakes amount needs to be value for that time of game.

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    I’m with Matt I just cash out and take the loss there are more than enough winning trades with this strategy to compensate

    One suggestion once you’ve cashed out forget about that trade and move onto the next

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    I think the BTC version is to cash out and move on at 70.

    Something you could do is track the data and see what happens to those game afterwards. I suspect some leagues might be prime candidates for a 'covering' lay of 0.5 goals. Back it up with thorough testing though before you do anything.

    Catch that Green!

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