Aug 2024 £3000 - ? Bank Challenge
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Another day another dollar:
Should be able to post complete update tonight but in the meantime that's +£3.31 and a new bank of £176.63.
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Missed Khalsa this morning as I was on the motorway. Nevermind. Good for the continuing data. Finally, finally, finally.....here's Sunday minus Randers which I played at the time but since decided to bench the Danish Superliga. Was still profitable, just not as profitable as it would have been without.
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In the meantime there's these for tomorrow:
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I had hoped to have finished off my weekend updates tonight but I noticed a discrepancy in the sheet and had to go back through certain results etc.... Either way it put me back and I'm now 2 away. Unfortunately I have to get up early and take a long drive so rather get some sleep than fall asleep at the wheel.
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2/2 tonight +£3.72
Still updating.
Bank now £173.32
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Just realised from an area where i tightened up on Friday after the BFC Dynamo loss (outlier) I saved myself a further loss in Ham-Kam over the weekend with similar stats. Just shows always better to remove stuff early doors and let it back in later on if gets back on track rather than keep plugging away at a dead horse.
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For today:
Asker is a trade right now.
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Making good progress with updating Sunday but I need some downtime now so will continue tomorrow. Will of course post up any for tomorrow either tonight or tomorrow afternoon.
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@darri said in The £59.91 - Betfair Premium Charge Challenge:
@richard-latimer i think the discussion on my blog today might help you bud, i think your over reliant on the data in a long term performance. Essentially, if you just had a set bank for a year this would work, your big data says so, but because you keep compounding you keep resetting the bank and therefore you will have hits. Last month for example brought you way back, because of your staking and compounding. This month you have had a good run, but because you keep compounding so quickly your just one bad weekend away from going all the way back. Like iv been saying from literally the first time i questioned how you trade, its not the strategy, i fully think you have something, it will take time, cutting leagues etc, but the way your managing it is super risky and your chasing this way too much. Saw you tell john you only have 7 months to get a big bank, yet your current bank is only £180 ish, can you actually see this risk?
Only replying to this because its based on my blog discussion. Not wanting to re open a discussion about your trading long term, just thought my post might help as clearly you do fit into the things im talking about.
Have to say not the worst idea to compound once a month. Or maybe stake less if you want aggressive compounding. (200 point bank maybe so halve your stakes). Either can be managed well. I remember after I blew my second bank I didn’t place another bean down until I had paper traded for six months. Then I only increased stakes everytime my bank doubled. I’m more aggressive these days but that’s because I know I can offset any losses through scalping and inrunning trading.
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@richard-latimer i think the discussion on my blog today might help you bud, i think your over reliant on the data in a long term performance. Essentially, if you just had a set bank for a year this would work, your big data says so, but because you keep compounding you keep resetting the bank and therefore you will have hits. Last month for example brought you way back, because of your staking and compounding. This month you have had a good run, but because you keep compounding so quickly your just one bad weekend away from going all the way back. Like iv been saying from literally the first time i questioned how you trade, its not the strategy, i fully think you have something, it will take time, cutting leagues etc, but the way your managing it is super risky and your chasing this way too much. Saw you tell john you only have 7 months to get a big bank, yet your current bank is only £180 ish, can you actually see this risk?
Only replying to this because its based on my blog discussion. Not wanting to re open a discussion about your trading long term, just thought my post might help as clearly you do fit into the things im talking about.
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@richard-latimer said in The £59.91 - Betfair Premium Charge Challenge:
Just these 3 of interest tonight:
Crusaders not a trade so 2/2 in Norway and +£3.17
Bank £169.60
For anyone worried about me compounding day on day, I get this has more risk of fluctuation but that's what the ratchet is there for and it's already been employed to good effect.
The growth will be quicker and of course any falls more heavily felt.
I'm not hovering around the precipice in terms of edge though. Between 94-95% s/r on the data (rapidly approaching 1,000 trades) which is getting closer and closer to actual reality. 85-86% would see me break even as my average odds no more than 6.4 (prob lower) so that's quite a chunk of grace shall we say.
I've experienced the bad runs on this already and I made the money back that was lost and now back in the green by around £15.00.
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Just these 3 of interest tonight:
Trading Spreadsheet linked below
https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fi/3gnk1vku1krkoyfcq37y6/Trading-Bible.xlsx?rlkey=01eqhp8u73s61iy2s814sqfll&dl=0 -
Finally, Saturday is done:
Was a few other decent results in leagues where I need data but no point in posting those.
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Still updating the weekend and I'm going to start accepting the fact it takes 2 or 3 days ti update the weekend. Nothing I can do about it. I should be able to post Saturdays later tonight and then Sundays tomorrow or Tuesday.
As for a quick overview though, that's easy. Today not as good as yesterday with a couple of losses in Switzerland and Denmark. Nevertheless it's a good +£7.09 and the bank increeases to £166.43.
Tomorrows stakes:
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It's going to take a long time to get anything on this but I'm going to start keeping a list of the teams that fail most frequently as well as the leagues. It may be that after a few years you could look at it and say, well there's nothing wrong with the league at all once you take these losers out haha!!
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A 97th minute goal in Orlando very welcome. Here's the rest:
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Revised staking in line with percentage increase of bank:
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Only about halfway through updating and I'll carry on that tomorrow. In the meantime here's some overnighters for the States. Now I'm off to watch a film before bed.
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@john-folan I know what you're saying but I have around 6 and a half to 7 and a half months to build as big a bank as possible. These are not ordinary times unfortunately. That's not to say I know every month will be great but if I base it on the huge amount of data I am beginning to amass there certainly shouldn't be many losing months.
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@richard-latimer said in The £59.91 - Betfair Premium Charge Challenge:
@martin said in The £59.91 - Betfair Premium Charge Challenge:
@richard-latimer brilliant, is this total all from the original amount have you added?
No, I've been adding £5.00 a week. In fact the system is still only around £5.00 in credit. Important thing for me is I know that if I can do it once I can do it again. I'm slowly cutting out all the silly mistakes, poor leagues and the outliers which have been hurting me. The FHG is on pause as I said because until I have decent data from each league I don't trust it to make money.
For Aug I was £30.00 up after a nightmare start.
For Sept I had another nightmare start and this time couldn't get it back. Ended up -£45.00
For this month I'm already £20.00 up so I know how quickly things can change.We cannot look at this on a monthly basis. Got to be quarterly at least. It’s tough but that’s the breaks
Read the first post on both threads.
Horse Trading Resources
https://forum.betfairtradingcommunity.com/topic/1111/john-s-horse-trading-resourcesBfBotmanager
https://forum.betfairtradingcommunity.com/topic/2915/bfbotmanager-automation-discussion
