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    A Former User
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    Ask questions, have discussions, share ideas, share strategies, etc!

    Powerful software and the more minds the better!

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    John Folan
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    @Martin Can you shut this thread? I've got a current one going, that people can find via my signature etc.

    Read the first post on both threads.

    Horse Trading Resources
    https://forum.betfairtradingcommunity.com/topic/1111/john-s-horse-trading-resources

    BfBotmanager
    https://forum.betfairtradingcommunity.com/topic/2915/bfbotmanager-automation-discussion

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    Nicolas RAMPON
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    Hi there,
    (i already post my message in another topic, maybe it was wrong).

    First of all excuse my English, I'm french.
    If one you want any tips about testing automatically your BTC filter on BF Bot let me know.
    You can just export all your filters, and then set them and import in BF Bot.
    It takes you around 10minutes, and you will test automatically hundred of bets daily !
    Let me tell you, it's wonderfull.
    I takes me few day to understand how its works and some discussion on the BF forum.

    Let me know if you want some help.

    Nico

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    Nicolas RAMPON
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    @nick-allan Hi,
    market conditions / market statut change delay.
    Let's say make it to at least 60 or 90 second.

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    Nick Allan
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    Hey guys i wonder if you might be able to tell me how you put say a 2 min delay on a hedge? what ive notice is when a goal is scored it hedges pretty much as soon as the markets settles and the odds are all over the place and im losing value.
    trying to put a delay of about 2-3 mins so the market has time to settle

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    Nick Allan
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    @john-folan cheers john lets hope it works

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    John Folan
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    @nick-allan yes mate. Then only one hedge takes place as opposed to two. I think that’s where it gets confused when running multiple strategies. This should take that away. Plus placing it on the first bot will hedge if that’s the only one in play.

    Read the first post on both threads.

    Horse Trading Resources
    https://forum.betfairtradingcommunity.com/topic/1111/john-s-horse-trading-resources

    BfBotmanager
    https://forum.betfairtradingcommunity.com/topic/2915/bfbotmanager-automation-discussion

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    Nick Allan
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    @john-folan thanks john, im going to give it a go test it and ill let you know how its going, one question, so lets use ryan spilt 01.5 as an example, so you have 2 bots one for 31 min and one for 50 min, in the examples you have shown do you just put the hedging on the 31 min bot and take all hedging in the after bet rules off the one on the 51 min?

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    John Folan
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    @martin said in BF Bot Manager:

    @john-folan nice one, how has it been going?

    I can see these now thanks to your reordering trick.

    It’s going well. I’ve got bots for Ryan’s split stake going. Just going to amend that slightly as my answer to Nick today has highlighted a better way of getting them to hedge. I need to work out how to pin posts so I can upload bots so they don’t get lost. This thread should be golden soon as a lot of people are interested in automation.

    Read the first post on both threads.

    Horse Trading Resources
    https://forum.betfairtradingcommunity.com/topic/1111/john-s-horse-trading-resources

    BfBotmanager
    https://forum.betfairtradingcommunity.com/topic/2915/bfbotmanager-automation-discussion

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    @nick-allan As promised.

    You have two options. If you are running no other strategies than these on the markets then attach this condition under after bet rules. If you attach it to your first entry bot it will hedge whichever bots are inplay as it will hedge the whole market regardless of where the bet came from if a goal is scored and also at 0-0.
    After Bet Rules > Hedge or Close Position > Profit/Loss Calculation
    0_1630150123168_Hedge whole market.JPG

    If you are also running other strategies on these as I know you mentioned previously then tick the third box down on the same page. Then add the three bots you want to hedge. Again add this to the first entry point bot and it should hedge whichever bots are inplay.
    0_1630150377252_Hedge Selected Strategies.JPG

    Read the first post on both threads.

    Horse Trading Resources
    https://forum.betfairtradingcommunity.com/topic/1111/john-s-horse-trading-resources

    BfBotmanager
    https://forum.betfairtradingcommunity.com/topic/2915/bfbotmanager-automation-discussion

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    Im having a few issues with hedging of the bots. So I have a bot that has three parts to it so it's basically an over 2.5 goals strategy that places trades at the 21st, 31st and 39th minute. It's due to hedge if there's a goal or hedge out at half time if there's no goals for a loss. The problem comes when it tries to hedge all three trades at the same time - whether there's a goal or whether it's at half time it seems to struggle to do that. I just wonder if anybody had any recommendations any ideas how I've set it up incorrectly maybe? Has anyone else out there got a drip feed strategy that they run that has had similar issues?

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    John Folan
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    I’ll post this here as well having answered Nick on the football thread.

    Bfbotmanager is great but it is difficult to run multiple strategies on the same markets as Nick mentions below.

    The simple way round this is to run instances of BFBOT on two pc’s. That way you can load strategy one on the market on one and strategy two on the other. If you don’t have two pcs or don’t fancy doing it that way you can run sandboxie which basically puts a virtual machine on your pc and you can run Bfbot inside that as well.

    Sandboxie is open source software and can be downloaded from here.

    https://github.com/sandboxie

    Read the first post on both threads.

    Horse Trading Resources
    https://forum.betfairtradingcommunity.com/topic/1111/john-s-horse-trading-resources

    BfBotmanager
    https://forum.betfairtradingcommunity.com/topic/2915/bfbotmanager-automation-discussion

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    Nick Allan
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    so i sent this question to BFBM:

    Wanted to ask a question, say you have two strategies running at the same time that are in the same market, say for example over 2.5 goals. You've got two strategies that are running, one in under 2.5 goal and the other is under 2.5 goal.

    So say we have team A where we want to run the unders strategy but not the overs. And then we have team B where you want to run the over strategy but not the unders. Now when I used to use Bet Angel guardian if you had to allocate a bot strategy to the game which meant you never had this issue, however with Betfair bot manager from what I can see you allocate the market (over/under 2.5) and then you turn on the strategy. The problem that you've got there is the essentially team A and B could be involved in both strategies.

    So my question is how do you allocate a strategy to a game as opposed to a number of games in one market, if that makes sense?

    they replied:

    Only solution is to manually set team names by using "Market conditions->Markets filter" rule, so that strategy only bets on markets whose name contains specific text in their name e.g. Arsenal, Chelsea etc. There is no other solution for this, sorry.

    surely there is better way of doing this? anybody out there who uses BFBM can help me with this?

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    Ryan
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    @paul-keighley Yes it's barren times on that filter! It'll come back roaring this season 😉

    Founder of BTC - Pro Trader - Main Sports Tennis and Football

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    @ryan said in BF Bot Manager:

    @paul-keighley Amazing work thank you for sharing! How are they getting on?

    No idea! I don't actually really use them! Just have some standard LTD and LTD HT Bots that can easily be used with added selections, plus an overs bot that could easily be used for most SHG strats. Your split stake strat is the only one that had to be made specifically, and that hasn't had a selection thrown up in about a decade! 🙂

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    Ryan
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    @paul-keighley Amazing work thank you for sharing! How are they getting on?

    Founder of BTC - Pro Trader - Main Sports Tennis and Football

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    Nick Allan
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    @paul-keighley thank you so much paul ive messaged you

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    @nick-allan said in BF Bot Manager:

    Hey guys,

    Ok so I recently purchased a licence for the BF bot manager. I used to use the Bet Angel guardian which is obviously a little bit different but one of the things that they used to do on the forum would be to share the bots, I was just wondering if anyone had created I bot for any of the profitable members strategies? so I was just looking to see if anyone had created a bot for the following:

    0_1628706553472_d720480e-e4ae-4b91-afb9-ab7c8fa45a3a-image.png

    I have bots for LTD, LTD HT, Ryan's Split Stake, SHG Bots (easily adapted to any minute and/or scorelines), which should cover the majority of those strats i think. if you message me your email address I'll send them over when i have time probably tomorrow at some stage.

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    Nick Allan
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    Hey guys,

    Ok so I recently purchased a licence for the BF bot manager. I used to use the Bet Angel guardian which is obviously a little bit different but one of the things that they used to do on the forum would be to share the bots, I was just wondering if anyone had created I bot for any of the profitable members strategies? so I was just looking to see if anyone had created a bot for the following:

    0_1628706553472_d720480e-e4ae-4b91-afb9-ab7c8fa45a3a-image.png

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    John Folan
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    Scratch that. I can’t see replies on here. I will start a new thread

    Read the first post on both threads.

    Horse Trading Resources
    https://forum.betfairtradingcommunity.com/topic/1111/john-s-horse-trading-resources

    BfBotmanager
    https://forum.betfairtradingcommunity.com/topic/2915/bfbotmanager-automation-discussion

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