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Hi, my name is William but call me Bill please.
I am originally from Ayrshire but live in Glasgow.
I have gambled for most of my life but really got interested in trading last year.
I have worked in social services mainly addiction related (Drugs and Alcohol)
I joined BTC to learn off others and enable myself to put more thought and discipline behind my trades and get support off others going through the same experience.
Knowledge, ideas, support and continuous learning
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@rene-ostenfeld Welcome to the community, its great to have you here.
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My problem is probably lack of focus. I have been trying different things but mostly:
Tennis:
- Lay the 1st set winner
- Back the server – only in set for a small profit
- Finding matches the momentum have shifted and then backing the player that have “turned” the match
Football:
- Lay the draw before a goal has gone in and green up when a goal goes in or I am in red with 50% of the stake – then take the loss
- Over 2.5 in matches with not much activity – I will go in and out for very small profit
I have tried to automate lay the draw a few years ago – but did not follow it to the end.
I guess I am quit risk adverse – I like to get at small profit everyday – that’s fine for me. Over a year it adds up. I am not sure where this will take me – but I have the time needed to slowly progress.
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@rene-ostenfeld welcome to the club! Great to have you here.
What have you been betting/trading on in the past?
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Hi Everyone
I am René from Denmark.I have always been fascinated by the betting industry but quickly found out that finding the “winner” is hard and that the odds are stacked against you if you just “bet”.
Spend a lot of time as a “sure-better” 10 years ago and got limited on all the bookmakers, but not on Betfair. I came across “trading” and have used Bet Angel on and off the last couple of years with some success.
I was looking for tennis/football stats and came across BTC. I don’t know where this will take my trading there is a lot of improvement to be done. There is a lot of things to read, watch, digest and understand, and I am really looking forward to it. From my first glance I must say it looks very interesting.
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In that case I would say if you were thinking about spending that kind of money you might be better placed getting a 6 month sub here @Caroline.
The training you want of the framework is my super trader framework and that's here https://forum.betfairtradingcommunity.com/category/10/new-members-start-here
That will show you the framework to build it.
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@ryan
Thanks Ryan
With regards to the course and whether it is right for me. I guess what I am after is a framework to help me develop my own strategies, so I can both help my profit and give back to those on this forum.
I know something about racing and nothing about the other sports, and in any event, my scout around the website so far suggests that you come to racing from a slightly different angle, in that it seems to be more about how Betfair users react than the form of the horse itself. This requires a bit of a shift in mindset, so maybe football will be easier for me to start with.
Football also has the advantage of being a bit more predictable with higher strike rates which should help with the bank growth
The strategies would need to be set and forget/automated preferably first thing in the mornings. I have zero interested in watching games.
I am interested in extracting long term value, but don't necessarily know how to find it
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@jon-batten
Thanks Jon, Most of my 'betting career' has been based around the horses so football..and the other sports are very new to me -
@Caroline Hey
Great to have you here & welcome!
Lovely opening post as well, looking forward to helping you and move your trading forward.
In terms of spending money on the Academy - I might ask what do you hope to get from purchasing it? (Then I will be able to let you know if its right for you
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@caroline Hi Caroline great to see a fellow devonian in here. I'm from down in sunny torquay. I'm fairly new on here but have been learning the game for around a year now so I'm more then happy to help if I can. Good luck your journey.
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@caroline welcome! Great to have you on board!
Sounds like you have a good footing to start from, if you need any help with anything just let me know
You should start with this playlist if you are a total beginner:
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New Member - Caroline from Devon
Caroline from sunny? South Devon
I have had various jobs from banking and stock broking to sales.
When I grow up I want to be a professional gambler or a bank robber or an art/jewel thief
I haven't really got involved in Betfair trading before though have used Betfair on and off for 20 years for betting purposes.
I started with matched betting, but its difficult to make a long term sustainable profit from that
More recently I have had success with each way value betting, however gubbed accounts have forced me to look to the exchanges.
I am retired with a pension going south at a rate of knots and would love to supplement my income with set and forget/automated betfair strategies as I am a busy person with lots of interests
I have set my self a year and £1k to prove concept (the £1k includes all subscriptions courses and bank)
I'm a bit of a magpie/butterfly (pick your metaphor) so my biggest challenge is not to get distracted by shiny new toys and stick to one thing
I looked at many options before joining BTC. I was initially scared off, but eventually chose this one because it has a nice mix of proven strategies to get you started plus hopefully a system to help you develop your own
Question I am a complete newbie to trading, though I suspect I will use this site to develop more set and forget/automated strategies, Is it worth me using £150 of my funds to join the BTC Academy?PS I'm such a numpty, I couldn't work out how to start a new thread and so had to 'reply' to this one. please enlighten me
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Thanks Karl. I love stats and data but have become far too embroiled in them where the horses are concerned, and find that I'm constantly questioning my own judgement. I have several pieces of software that I've written, or had written, to automate the analysis and predict likely outcomes, but with 40 years of involvement to a greater or lesser extent, my gut still argues!
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@paul-w ...Yes, you don't realise health is everything, you just take it for granted until something happens.
Good Luck in your weeks trial....I came in with the same attitude as regards Horse Racing being all my knowledge, but know I am very different, I work on stats and evidence rather than feelings!!
Weird for a start but now just do it......have fun!! -
Hi all.
I'm Paul, 61, originally from the midlands I now live on the west coast of Scotland.I've been a member of Betfair pretty much since it started, and over the years have dabbled in various types of trading, without really taking any of it too seriously. My real interest is horse racing, having owned a couple of horses many years ago. Since giving up ownership I've spent many years trying to apply everything I've learned, and have several pieces of AI software that I use to help me make an informed decision; sometimes that works well, but more often than not it doesn't!
So what has brought me here, now?
I worked long hours (80-100 a week) for many years, just to make ends meet, and then last August I got diagnosed with cancer. Thankfully, following major surgery and brilliant work by the NHS, I have come through that, but along the way I learned that there is more to life than working to make ends meet. The result is that I've decided to turn back to Betfair, but with a fresh view.
I won't be able to let go of the horses .... they are kind of embedded in me, but I feel that I have to let them become a hobby/pleasure, and look at other avenues as a means of income. I've always had an interest in football, but not a massive or in-depth knowledge - I'm a life-long Leicester City fan, which probably tells you all you need to know!! Ideally I will find a niche which I can look at automating (probably with help). It was when I started Googling and looking into ideas for this that I came across BTC, and for now I've just taken out a 1 week membership so that I can have a dig around and get a feel for the place.
I do have an inner 'gambler' which I have under control, but that is the reason I want to look into a new area and possible automation, I'll restrict any major input on my behalf to the horses, where at least I have an idea what I'm doing, and am probably too set in my ways to take anything new on-board where they are concerned; as a natural follow on from that, I'm not looking to learn great detail about players, leagues or clubs, rather data and statistics which can highlight profitable areas to target. An area where I am already inquisitive is goal timings, and in particular late goals scored and the possibility of backing those or laying a current score line at a given point.
I'm open to ideas and suggestions and welcome comments from all .... now! Time to start exploring ....
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@neal-simmonds Nice, we get a lot of people on the email for a while then sign up. Great to have you here, you must have liked my 4 million emails
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@ryan Well, I guess it wasn't any one thing! But I could narrow it down to finished work during Covid, which puts time on my hands & having a sufficient enough bank. I've been a subscriber for a long time now so I think this was always on the cards for me!
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@neal-simmonds Welcome to the group matey and great to have you here.
What pushed you over the edge and made you go right that's it the time is now to join?
I love that you make spreadsheets for fun, you'll fit in well here. I always feel spreadsheets are a bit like stationary - everybody loves them deep down but doesnt want to admit it.
