@john-dane so you want to back more than one goal late on? Would be an interesting experiment but may be frustrating if you get one goal.
Football Trading
@Ryan Thanks, really appreciate the response. Yeah I have tried many ways to trade to see what i prefer, where there is potential for scaling up, how I execute, the list goes on.
My general focus on football is searching for potential angles where i can get my trade odds close to, at or above evens. I feel there is a lot of opportunity to exploit trends in football matches with what may appear to be mediocre strike rates with superb value. I’ve been tracking the BTC SHG members filter to delve in to. Loads of matches on that one usually loads of liquidity.
Yes I have put pressure on myself in the past to do more, trade more, expect more return, it’s not fun and you can easily spend too much time doing that getting frustrated with a lack of progress leaving little time for identifying what’s really working and what’s not working in your trading. I’ve done it. You’ve often said you need thinking time and it is absolutely essential, and I’d say don’t put a limit on how much thinking time you need.
Absolutely tax free…yes, that was another major reason for learning to trade. She did say increasing pension contribution is the way to get the best return. Good argument but trading still trumps thats.
@Patrik-Mellqvist probably easiest if I anwser your first post then you ask another question after that, or I will get lost trying to follow all of these posts.
To view current odds of your selections you can see then in the criteria list on your strategy results. So when you click the filter and see the selections it will be listed as Criteria X (numbered based on which number it is in your criteria order when you created the filter).
However these will only be the prematch odds, they do not track inplay.
@Vince-Kavanagh really interesting results, the thing is as annoying as past three months have been it's still well up overall and no month has been a massive loss. I guess the next couple of months are crucial to hopefully get it trending in the right direction.
Updat, 4 loses and 3 wins and a small positive return on the result sheet, if i had made the original lay i would have been in the negative area - i see some value in the filter and odds selection with Unders as they give an higher return on investment then the lay bet.
The question is how that will be reduced due to the TIE when hitting the score lines 2-1 and 1-2.
Most of the time you do a small profit and not an TIE on them.
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I will share something for the community as i can see there is certian amount of views.
There is an optional way or solution for the ELO calulation with 100+ difference including the comback ration of 60+
I been doing some degree of extanded testing where you pick only Home Favorites witht he odds 1,75 or lower.
And where the Underdog score during the first 20 min.
This creates what i call time value and where the majority of games the Favorite make an equalizer.
I got an positive ROI after 300 placed trades.
You have 70 min and the extra added time for first half and second half that is around an minimum of 10+.
That make your Home Favorite almost having an full match to equlaize or 80+ min.
Now after reading Richard's ELO system and watch Martin's video i learn one importan lesson.
To take advantage of the 0-2 siutuation for the underdog where the Home Favorite succed scoring once but maybe not twice and we can get out from the RED with an SCRATCH - that is an importan lesson as this score line is very common when the Underdog is hot you will see more 1-2 score lines then 0-3 score lines.
So i see value in trading this siutution to minimize the RED and increase the overall strike ratio with wins and ties and occasional loses.
Now i will update this topic as i will experiemnt with the options to act when there is 0-2.
As the relay bet is time sensetive and will not always work i want an sure thing as trading option.
In the examples above you can see that the correct score line 1-2 before kick of is around 26 to back.
Maybe this would cut the siutaion to an favorable HEDGE bet with 80/20 ratio and use the implicity of that things can go wrong and then be safe and i not with succesfull trade we take a reduce winning pot that narrow down to maybe 5 or 10% on the cash out amount, just my estimation.
Not sure is this option work - but i will do some simluatons and get back with some pictures.
The other option that i know work to almost full degree is to back the draw price when the score line is 0-2 with the ratio 70/30 and you will get out with an scratch trade, but i feel 30% of the base stake is to much for an hedge bet and feel that 20% would be better, so there is a need to test that and the difference in odds are huge, draw price at 0-2 is around 11 to back and the cs back odds for 1-2 is around 26 to back.
Cheers
@Patrik-Mellqvist You’re welcome. I really wanted more data on this filter so just thought the bets thing to do was begin to track myself and over time i would get the data i wanted. I was helped by another member @Greg-Mitchell who had data from July 2023 to early 2024.
I’ll be interest in what you find from the data. And thanks again.
@Patrik-Mellqvist according to soccerstats 77% for Singapore not sure on others but google will probably be your best bet
@GREGORIOS-KARASHIALIS no, just scalping for a tick or two for small profit. For example back 1.20 and lay 1.19.
Added lay and back home strategies from my video this week in the opening post.
@Patrik-Mellqvist interesting stuff keep us updated!
@GREGORIOS-KARASHIALIS Hi Mate. I am not great ( actually awful ) at spreadsheets i started saving on my link but gave up months ago as it went wrong and wasn't saving any results i was inputting. Ended up doing the old fashioned way of paper trading takes ages to record it all as i have been paper trading about 15 systems.
@darren-orange I've added it let me know if you don't get any daily emails tomorrow
@Kurtis-Steven-Graham
Hey dude , I've changed alot since the first filter to narrow down too many selections, I'm currently testing and will reveal my finding very soon.
Are you struggling to find selections ?
@Simon-Bates Yes, have a look at the IMPORTDATA function. The formatting of the webpage will matter, but assuming it's in some kind of table, it should work OK.
Thanks, Adam, that's really useful to know 👍 it has been bugging me.
@Zain-dharamshi-0 here is a video I made kind of a tutorial on a FHG strategy I made take a look:
hi yes i had added another address
it was showing on site - that was the cause ?
ok thanks for fixing
rgds
peter