@alexander-hughes Brilliant Thanks for your help.

@ian some info in the OP here: https://forum.betfairtradingcommunity.com/topic/3286/set-forget-football-strategies/2

I use Bitwarden which you can have as an app on your phone or an extension to your browser. It's really good because it saves all your log in, creates passwords, keeps 2FA, etc.

I'm sure there are loads that do something similar. It's a pain to go through all your passwords and make them more secure, but considering the potential downside it's worth doing.

@Toni-0 Yes the more i think back i had the same issue. I think in my trading naivety i wasn’t tracking correctly by entering the back/lay on trading out/cash out, then realised there was no other way around it. It’s possible to accurately track your bank, just not ideal and I found it annoying, but is technically what you’re actually doing when trading out(back/lay etc), it’s just that it’s not logged within the same ‘trade’ if i remember. Maybe that is why they haven’t added the feature? Would be great if they did add it.
Initially it was a god send for me though as showed me the importance of tracking (no matter your skill level) and it was easy to do all on my phone or iPad.
Then i joined BTC and In the end I wanted complete tracking customisation so ended up teaching myself how to create a spreadsheet in a haphazard way learning/poaching formulas and this and that as time’s gone on and for me with the online tools that are part of the super trader package has taught me how all that side of trading works.

@JON-RIDING
You need two elements to the automation rule

To check the current score To lay the current score if the fixed odds condition is <= to the price you want to lay at.

You can get examples from the shared automation files on the forum in Bet Angel

@Jonathan-West I just uploaded the filter and have been taking my selections from that. There are far too many to trade all. Then i’ve just stuck to the rules and timings (aiming to be in at 11.30-11:50 on the clock then set a 5 minute timer, and out when time is up). I haven’t always stuck to the odds though but my average odds is within the parameters.

@David-Milligan said in How do you Trade Second Half Goal? Entry, Staking, Exit?:

@Chris-King I would love to find the @Akiva-Anderson secret sauce. I find it's a really enjoyable way to trade but I'm not sure how to find a reproducible way of choosing games!

I'm not even sure what I'm doing!!

Think one may have been posted here:https://forum.betfairtradingcommunity.com/topic/2915/bfbotmanager-automation-discussion/2

If not request one and I'm sure someone will help 🙂

@Adam Amazing! Thanks Adam

@Terence If you are making solid progress your 1% stake will increase naturally, there is no need to up the percentage and put pressure on your bank because variance is going your way. Stick to 1% and you shouldn't put your bank at risk as long as your trading is solid.

@Maximiliano-Garnero Everything you need is already in here matey, in the football thread.

If you post what you were doing daily on there you'd see people commenting etc...

@Maximiliano-Garnero The rule changes regarding stoppage time means there are now, 8,9 10 even 15 mins of added on time. So the number of super late goals will increase. Markets are catching up to that fact so there is probably some profit to be made in laying current score/the current unders market, but you'd need to research it, come up with a hypothesis, filters/criteria and then test it, by which time the endge may have gone if the markets do adjust for the extra added time.

You might simply decide that, if you have a green trade on the LTD strategy then you could use x% of your 'green' as the lay liability for another goal and just see how you go for a month...might be interesting!

@Martin said in fantasy football:

Anyone not pick Haaland?

i didn't bother this year , i ended up with a strike force of Watkins, Darwin and Isak .

@james-everard said in RULE CHANGES FOR 2023-24:

@Karl-Pick said in RULE CHANGES FOR 2023-24:

@james-everard ...We have a New Ground, brilliant Chairman and facilities that are way above the league we are in!
I do corporate for games and there is 190 sell out every home game at £50 a go, so money is coming in!!!
BUT, who wants to come and play non league football in the arse end of Lincolnshire? And that lies the problem! Still got 1500 diehard fans at home every week and took 325 away to Buxton 3 hours away, so everythings in place but the players sadly!

Sounds like you at least have everything in place and 1500 is a good following . My club has potential to be in the football league ( population in borough of 181,000) but we have a chairman who knows nothing about football and is in it for the wrong reasons and a crap council owned athletics stadium been stuck here for 20 years!!

BUT we do live in the Arse end of Lincolnshire, no duel carriageway here never mind Motorways....nothing else to do here except kill each other obviously, as we are still the murder capital of the UK!

@Adam great stuff, thank you!

Hi Folks. An update on what ive traded and spotted.
Very much in its infancy and currently not set on a strategy as there are many options, all positive, some could bare some serious fruit!!
So heres what ive traded on so far. Results, dont dig too deep, im trying to suss out whats best, losses in some cases were avoidable.

HT FT

St Johnstone 0-1 0-4 Stirling Albion Odds 6 -1pt
Rosenburg 0-2 3-2 Odds BK Odds 10 +8pt
Ponte Preta 2-0 2-2 Victoria Salvador Odds 6 -1pt
Hibs 0-2 2-3 St Mirren Entry Odds 18 0pt
Viking 2-2 3-2 Bodo G Entry Odds 8 -1pt

Sunday also saw Leeds come back from 0-2 to end 2-2. Draw odds were at 12 in Injury time!!!
Also, Sunderland were 0-2 down falling short at 1-2. None Traded.

Results: £1 =1 point
St Johnstone -1pt
Rosenburg Win Cash Out at 9 +8pt
Ponte Preta (entry ay 1-2) Let it Run -1 pt (cash out offer of 1.86pt
Hibs 0pt (entry at 1-2) (odds were at 75 at 65 mins) Cash out at 2-2 for 2.26pt
Viking H-T Offered 1.94+ cash out. I let it run for -1pt loss.

There are many variants to these games. How early in the game the deficit occurs is key, its not straight forward. However, even a goal offers profits, and if you look at Hibs who were at 65-70 minutes 2 down, odds at 75, they score 2 to level, on another day they score the winner and your in for a huge win. I think this is all about getting a foot on the Ladder then taking your chance based on the in play stats and how you see it.
Last week Rosenburg were at 10 at HT and they did win the game 3-2.

Not a straight forward method regards odds, but this is without a doubt a reccurring theme, its how you play the game that dictates your profitability!

Answers on a postcard please!!!

@David-Williams back up on another exchange, pain in the backside but you can cover on Smarkets, Betdaq or Matchbook if the market is on there. Worst case scenario use a bookie

@Stjepan-Bacic welcome to the community! Great to have you here 😄

@David-Williams nice!! that's the issue with the LTD when you get a losing trade it hurts because it wipes out profit and seems like it takes a while to get back then it seems to be on a good run.

@Martin onwards and upwards, I hope anyway. Feeling positive about the strategies, I think you will always get some blips along the way. It’s all a learning curve. 👍🏻